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  1. #21
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    Flash039's Avatar
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    Flash Guardian
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 70
    DRK: Dark Mind, Shadow Wall, Blackest Night, Living Dead, Souleater heal (5)
    No cross Skill Rampart !!! you could count Sole Survivor you forgot all the mini CD. Blackest Night is 15 Sec RECAST What CD doe other tank have is 15 sec RECAST. War Lose an Mini Cd since you kinda have pair awarness with Raw Intuition. SE probably Give
    Drk 1 less Cd if you add all the CD or role Action due to Blackest Night. If Blackest Night recast was like 90 sec+ I would agree with you. And another thing is there an thing call tank swap to max performed unless you solo tanking.
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  2. #22
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    SyzzleSpark's Avatar
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    Pixiline Paradigm
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Flash039 View Post
    DRK: Dark Mind, Shadow Wall, Blackest Night, Living Dead, Souleater heal (5)
    No cross Skill Rampart !!! you could count Sole Survivor you forgot all the mini CD. Blackest Night is 15 Sec RECAST What CD doe other tank have is 15 sec RECAST. War Lose an Mini Cd since you kinda have pair awarness with Raw Intuition. SE probably Give
    Drk 1 less Cd if you add all the CD or role Action due to Blackest Night. If Blackest Night recast was like 90 sec+ I would agree with you. And another thing is there an thing call tank swap to max performed unless you solo tanking.
    Dude, this is getting tiresome.

    I didn't count Rampart because ALL THE TANKS HAVE IT.

    TBN is a 15s recast yes. In practice, a WAR can use IB about every 15 seconds too. They can even be chained together if need be, although you almost never wanna do that. Similarly, PLD can use Sheltron about as often as TBN/IB as well. All of WARs cooldowns also have relatively short recasts overall, it is almost impossible to run out unless you are horribly mismanaging them, and, although very inefficient, PLD can spam Clemency on themselves if they are in danger of dying.

    Sole Survivor is an MP management tool. The heal literally almost never counts for anything. If you're tanking the thing that just died... well... its dead. What good is the heal? If you're not tanking the thing that just died, you probably just overhealed 20% of your HP unless you had such unbelievable clutch luck that you managed to time it precisely 16 seconds before a tank buster so as to have it top you up immediately after the hit.
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  3. #23
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    Blackest Night doe all tank have it?.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash039 View Post
    Blackest Night doe all tank have it?.
    gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8.
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  5. #25
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    Lia Numa
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Now that patch 4.01 is out we can also complain that Bloodspiller deals more damage outside of grit even though the original tuning made it even. Dunno if that was intentional.
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  6. #26
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    Espikes Darkwind
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8.
    /comfort

    Don't explode yet, we can't have you lose another main character xD
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  7. #27
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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Flash039 View Post
    Blackest Night is 15 Sec RECAST What CD doe other tank have is 15 sec RECAST.
    Did you want exactly 15 seconds or would the 5 second recast and 10 second duration of Sheltron suffice? True it only blocks one attack but it's been up every time I've wanted it so far.

    Hmm doesn't have utility though. Like an intervention to damage taken by 10%, on a 10 second timer, with a duration of 6 seconds.

    As far as sole survivor as mitigation... only if you have an add phase and usually there is some down time after the phase for heals to find you. If sole survivor worked more like blood weapon for hp/mp/blood I could agree.
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    Last edited by Chrono_Rising; 07-04-2017 at 10:02 PM.

  8. #28
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    Lia Numa
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    As far as sole survivor as mitigation... only if you have an add phase and usually there is some down time after the phase for heals to find you. If sole survivor worked more like blood weapon for hp/mp/blood I could agree.
    95% of add phases in this game is boss vanishes -> adds -> heal up! -> raid buster, but i guess like, technically it's a self-heal. It's not mitigation though w
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  9. #29
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    Ash Arkwright
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    Rogue Lv 100
    Sigh.. just bring back Shadowskin. We need something for content under 70, in addition to rampart and shadow wall. Or take shadow wall's CD and drop it down to 30 seconds.
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  10. #30
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    Will Brannigan
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by hakurou46 View Post
    95% of add phases in this game is boss vanishes -> adds -> heal up! -> raid buster
    Primals, sure. Most raids I can think of have adds that show up and die while something else is on the field being tanked, even if it's not the main boss. Almost every fight in Alexander raids did this (actually maybe all of them?). Usually you're casting Sole Survivor on something your party members are killing while you tank another thing. It's not super reliable, but the healing is nice. Not necessarily agreeing with whoever you guys are arguing with, but I used a ton of Sole Survivor in HW and I see a lot of people neglecting it.

    Anyway, for DRK buffs, all I really want is Dark Passenger to be free (or worth its MP on a single target) and for Souleater to have some healing outside of Grit. If they really want to add some utility to it, I'd have DA Dark Mind give your party members 10% magic mitigation.

    Oh they should also swap the levels of Delirium and Bloodspiller, holy hell leveling DRK was stupid.
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    Last edited by Brannigan; 07-04-2017 at 11:54 PM.

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