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  1. #11
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    Sebazy's Avatar
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Oh aye ya the Fey Union bug, that's an exception to the rule for now.

    But for reference, with 510 DH I'm seeing somewhere in the rough ballpark of a 5-10% direct hit rate with my nukes, but I don't get any DH heals whatsoever. The threshold to get a DH heal could be significantly higher, but I'm working on the assumption that it just doesn't count towards regular heals at all (Union bug aside).
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Crit was the highest healing stat for all healers in HW, and determination the worst, but right now we don't know since no one has done the testing. If I had to pick one I'd go with crit.
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    Kit Cloudwalker
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Me and a fellow FC member were doing some testing. Don't waste materia slots on speed. I had 1480 speed then got rid of my melds to drop it down to about 1200. cast time went from 1.88 to 1.9. so far the best stats are Deter and Crit rate according to our results. So I would say go Deter > Crit rate > Spell Speed
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  4. #14
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    Kethic Zachrias
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Speed is a percentage, so faster spells will benefit less, yeah. I'm down at 2.34 for my slowest spells. For WHM SpS kinda works since it boosts hps, dps, and hot amplitude. I would not recommend SpS for any of the other healers at all.

    And yeah, Crit is safe on every class, at every gear level.
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  5. #15
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    Wynne Yilmaz
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 100
    From the patch 4.01 notes in Resolved Issues:

    "An issue wherein the scholar action Fey Union would always restore critical HP under certain conditions."

    Does this have to do with the DH stat making Fey Union much stronger?
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  6. #16
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    Seolla Viltara
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by magnanimousCynic View Post
    From the patch 4.01 notes in Resolved Issues:

    "An issue wherein the scholar action Fey Union would always restore critical HP under certain conditions."

    Does this have to do with the DH stat making Fey Union much stronger?
    Yes. If they fixed it then expect Fey Union to heal for 30% less per tick if you have direct hit melded somewhere.

    Sadface.

    In terms of what materia you want, Crit or Det will probably be a safe bet for most healers, but consider VIT for your right side accessories if you intend to hit Omega savage hard. Melding VIT was exceptionally useful for all classes, especially while learning.

    You may also consider some Piety pieces on gear that is otherwise capped in your desired stat. Spell speed is an option, but with the job changes it really lost a lot of appeal, and you need quite a lot of it to notice.
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    Last edited by LegoTechnic; 07-04-2017 at 02:22 PM.

  7. #17
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    Logan Riversong
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    Phoenix
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I was looking for this ;D

    I just hit 70 with my WHM (I choose it as main over AST) and I was wondering which materia meld.
    So you guys are saying that for WHM the useful materia would be:

    SpS, crit and det?
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by logan_riversong View Post
    I just hit 70 with my WHM (I choose it as main over AST) and I was wondering which materia meld.
    So you guys are saying that for WHM the useful materia would be:

    SpS, crit and det?
    As said, crit is the safest bet, but no one has the facts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnykit View Post
    Me and a fellow FC member were doing some testing. Don't waste materia slots on speed. I had 1480 speed then got rid of my melds to drop it down to about 1200. cast time went from 1.88 to 1.9. so far the best stats are Deter and Crit rate according to our results. So I would say go Deter > Crit rate > Spell Speed
    People didn't use SpS to lower cast times but because it actually boosted your healing power in HW (just not as much as Crit). Determination was the worst stat for all healers in HW, so why would you recommend it now? You said you've done some testing but can you please give the details so others can estimate if it's reliable?
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  9. #19
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    Kit Cloudwalker
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    couldn't give you a lot of details since I play on PS4, no third party programs to aid said testing. So instead since there like tons of grade 5 out there, we just melded and remelded our gear. We had full Ala Mhigo gear. No primal stuff. arhat ring of healing. I was doing on average about 7800 base cure with crit of about 11,800. after switching melds to mostly determination. around 900 to 1200 (I dont know the exact number) I went up to 8500 to 12400 on cure and its cast time went from 1.88 at 1400 (had some G6 melds) to 1.9 seconds. I don't know why but my fellow FC member has almost the exact same stats but he does slightly more. (I'm Miqo'te and he is Hyur) All in all more testing from the player base is required to ascertain BiS melds. I look forward to continued discussion on this matter. Hope your all having fun healing V3 and V4

    PS: I like to change my previous statement to Deter > Crit > Piety (also like to mention til now I've never been really hardcore or did savage content, just get the highest ilevel possible from tomestones was my thing til I finally joined this group of players that make me wanna do this content with and be the best I can possibly be. )

    see if this link works so you can look at my character: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...aracter/348658
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    Last edited by Jonnykit; 07-05-2017 at 09:13 AM.

  10. #20
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    Kethic Zachrias
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I dug through the latest stats from Omega normal. A White Mage can now 20% crit with melds. Determination starts at a lower value and scales worse in general, so unless it got a huge boost to its Baseline in this expansion, crit is really the way to go. I love my spell speed, but the math heavily suggests crit again, especially with our level 68 trait.
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