I don't like being punished for wanting to run dungeons.

[Hikuras]

That's fair. Every time I see people posting on here about "You should make a PF if you don't want XYZ" it's always directed at one side and not the other. Appreciate you saying it goes both ways.

yeah it's all about fairness. Like I que all the time and there's a risk for getting all kinds of people I may not want to be near for whatever reasons. But that's the cons with ques. They are fast and many, but you have the chance to run into people you don't agree with. Both sides need to remember that. The world would be a much better place if people on all sides viewed it that way.

[savageink]

No, no it was not. It was created to make content doable. If you want to be a slowpoke and make 3/7 other people wait for you, you're being just as much of an asshole as the people who want to try and break world-records for no reason at all.

Like Hikuras said. It goes both ways and the majority rules.

that's how it works in practice. it's not why they were created.

[AsahinaMyLove]

Had such newbies (or more slackers..?) too =_= Why lv22 people can join a lv60 dungeon...? Why they can even DO Dead palace at that level anyway? Glamour skill is lv50, but you can join the palace without finished ARR story? lol They has no clue how to use there suddenly flooted skill rooster -> really low dps, running mindless in enemy groups and traps, trying to solo a mob even under 20/20 on weapon/armor <.< Dead palace floors 51-200 ahould be for lv50(outsite palace) and/ir cleared ARR story only!

[BigRed5392]

I hope you reported those guys. I'm pretty sure that counts as griefing.

no it doesn't kick abuse does actually. Typicaly it is a majority wins in pt, if it 2 v2 try to compromise as no 1 person is the majority. As for the dungeon run, he coulda left as it sounded like the 3 dc people were in a group as the other person said to wait.


the OP needs to fix his attitude tbh. Sounds like a entitled :/ another thing is, there is a chance the 3 got booted because of the server reset.

[BigRed5392]

No, no it was not. It was created to make content doable. If you want to be a slowpoke and make 3/7 other people wait for you, you're being just as much of an asshole as the people who want to try and break world-records for no reason at all.

Like Hikuras said. It goes both ways and the majority rules.

you can only speak for yourself, not the 3/7 other people. I wish you guys would stop talking like this, it is rarely 1 v 3 or 1 v 7. more like 2 grumps and 2-5 others. so far op was in the minority. in both cases. he and the other guy was just faster on the boot. Which is a d-ck move. no communication or compromise just "you suck, /kick"

[Charlayy]

Yesterday I encountered a problem where I was in POTD floors 51-60, as part of the normal grind most are familiar with. Anyways, we got two green-leafers that refused to advance to the next floor. When we asked them what they were doing, they said we shouldn't be rushing them, and therefore decided they wouldn't continue. After waiting another 5-ish minutes, we got impatient and booted one of them. We could not however, boot the other one - because now we had incurred "4 hour cooldown" from initiating boots.

So basically wasted our time there.

Good. Shouldnt rush players.

[Lithil]

snippy

This argument is beyond asinine and I wish people like you would stop lumping all low level players together. Yes, many you find in palace can be awful but just as often I have encountered max level players, even mentors that play just as badly.

As for their suddenly "flooted rooster" of skills: No part of this game teaches you the proper way to really use most of your skills outside the basics the beginner hall teaches you. Learning to use your skills requires reading the skill description, researching your rotation, and practice.

At the end of the day these bad players would be bad with or without palace, regardless of level. Likewise, the players that honestly try and learn and play to the best of their ability will most likely continue being that way in any content, regardless of level. The quicker you people get over yourselves and come off your high horses the better. Good and bad v players exist across all levels and content.

[Yahallo]

Because PUG groups were created for casuals.

Duty Finder in Japan is used for getting a quick clear, especially if you are on a bit of a busy schedule. It is considered rude on the Japanese servers to use it if it is your very first time; party finder is supposed to be used for first times. So I wouldn't say it was made for casuals; rather that is just what the English community made it into.

Good. Shouldnt rush players.

so far op was in the minority. in both cases. he and the other guy was just faster on the boot. Which is a d-ck move. no communication or compromise just "you suck, /kick"

Except asking people to get in the portal when they are just standing there refusing to progress and nothing doing anything else other than chatting is not really rushing someone. Honestly, those two people in PotD deserve to be reported and I hope OP reported them; it's one thing to hunt for chests, but literally standing around and refusing to progress is just griefing.

[Khaidal]

no it doesn't kick abuse does actually. Typicaly it is a majority wins in pt, if it 2 v2 try to compromise as no 1 person is the majority. As for the dungeon run, he coulda left as it sounded like the 3 dc people were in a group as the other person said to wait.


the OP needs to fix his attitude tbh. Sounds like a entitled :/ another thing is, there is a chance the 3 got booted because of the server reset.

How is standing by the circle and disabling progress not griefing? OP flat out says they refused to step on the circle because they were "being rushed." That's griefing. I'll agree that his attitude could be better, but that doesn't change the fact that those people were in the wrong.

[NatSilverguard]

Duty Finder in Japan is used for getting a quick clear, especially if you are on a bit of a busy schedule. It is considered rude on the Japanese servers to use it if it is your very first time; party finder is supposed to be used for first times. So I wouldn't say it was made for casuals; rather that is just what the English community made it into.

I find these statements to be false, i think you mix up your Duty Finder and Party Finder.
MSQ requires us to que up on DF as 1st timers in order to progress...