Objectively, The Royal Managerie Will Be Nerfed

[YitharV2]

Part of the possibility of pugging it also depends on when you do it. It's easier to do earlier after release, but the number of traps seems to increase as you move along. You queue in and it seems like people are dying to unavoidable damage and later on, in complete hindsight, you learn that the WHM of the party NEVER cast Medica to help heal up for / from the unavoidable damage. Sorry, just a bit salty. I'm also ... how do you not use Medica? I'm not sure how or if you can actually fix that.

It'd be really great if the fight were side content.

Personally Medica is my last choice of AoE heal. Scratch that, Cure III is my last choice, but Medica is low on the list.

Medica II has a longer range and has a regen effect. The regen effect usually ensures topped off HP over 30 seconds. And Medica II generates less initial aggro, although more over time.

Assize heals as much as Medica, restores 10% of my MP, is instant cast and does damage as well.

I do use Medica when applicable but as I said low on the list.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Cure 3 needs to be used mroe, its a heal bomb. Ive seen so many wipes that wouldnt have happened if the whm had just used it instead of medica 2.

[Dzian]

This (sometimes) means the DPS isn't there. As a healer myself, i know you can do this fight without running out (of manna). We have a lot of mechanics that prevents this from happening. But if we ran out of manna in this fight it means one of two (or both) things EDIT: well, three:

1. DPS isn't the greatest (which causes a super long fight which causes manna drain)
2. Lots of folks stepping in bad goo and getting hurt harder or dying (which causes a greater manna drain for resurrections)
3. Healers are not utilizing cool down and other manna saving abilities

4 . Dps ain't hitting the tail when it smacks down..

Every time the tail is busted the boss takes 400k damage.

Only unlocked and cleared the fight yesterday but that was the biggest problem in most of my runs. People pretty much smacking the boss and ignoring the tail

[YitharV2]

Cure 3 needs to be used mroe, its a heal bomb. Ive seen so many wipes that wouldnt have happened if the whm had just used it instead of medica 2.

I'll keep that in mind for parties that are low on HP. Hmm, actually thinking of Royal Menagerie, I do see where I could get some use out of it. But mana efficiency does concern me, especially if DPS aren't hitting the tail.

According to this post, it's situational.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I'll keep that in mind for parties that are low on HP. Hmm, actually thinking of Royal Menagerie, I do see where I could get some use out of it. But mana efficiency does concern me, especially if DPS aren't hitting the tail.

According to this post, it's situational.

cure 3 will pretty much top off a party after any high raid damage. medica 2 is prep for raid damage, or after when no more raid damage is going out for the near future. If you have a heavy hit followed by a heavy hit, medica 2 is not worth.

[YitharV2]

cure 3 will pretty much top off a party after any high raid damage. medica 2 is prep for raid damage, or after when no more raid damage is going out for the near future. If you have a heavy hit followed by a heavy hit, medica 2 is not worth.

Yeah, I'll generally precast Medica II so it goes off right after raid damage.

[SpeckledBurd]

I would love for it to remain at the difficulty it is at. Thordan in Heavensward, while certainly not lacking in presentation didn't feel all that epic or rewarding to do in i145 gear. You beat on him and he died, but failing the mechanics basically didn't matter at all. Having to actually put in effort to beat the Royal Menagerie isn't a problem to me at all frankly.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

One of the reasons this is a pain is due to the high amount of players who can't be assed doing their 70 job quest.

[Ahzarhuuk]

I only have issues with that giant ass near map-wide fly over. Earth breath is also a Game Over if people aren't smart enough to manage it.

But over time this seems like a thing that will only get easier as people get more gear. Even if individuals can't get gear yet, people with the Trial Roulette will

[Powercow]

One of the reasons this is a pain is due to the high amount of players who can't be assed doing their 70 job quest.

This is definitely an issue. I agree with the person earlier who suggested the level 70 group content should be locked off until you finish your 70 job quest.