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  1. #221
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    Syvic Zivota
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    I've had it worse playing as RDM. I have had healers tell me "don't expect to get much healing out of me, Mr. Dualcast cure." So many boss fights I've had to completely stop dpsing and heal myself, the final 3.0 dungeons are the worst. I've said it once before, Healers are the most sensitive player pool in this game.
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  2. #222
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    You obviously have no experience or knowledge of playing healers, casters, or ranged DDs in SB.
    MCH/RDM/SCH. Not much has really changed otherwise except I have to watch my heat meter. o3o I do know how to manage my hate quite well.
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  3. #223
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    I've had it worse playing as RDM. I have had healers tell me "don't expect to get much healing out of me, Mr. Dualcast cure." So many boss fights I've had to completely stop dpsing and heal myself, the final 3.0 dungeons are the worst. I've said it once before, Healers are the most sensitive player pool in this game.
    Any healer who said that needs a good slap in the face.
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  4. #224
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    Keridwyn's Avatar
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    Keridwyn Maeve
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    I've had it worse playing as RDM. I have had healers tell me "don't expect to get much healing out of me, Mr. Dualcast cure." So many boss fights I've had to completely stop dpsing and heal myself, the final 3.0 dungeons are the worst. I've said it once before, Healers are the most sensitive player pool in this game.
    Any healer telling you that can go eat a bag of male genetalia. That would be like refusing to heal a SMN because they have a heal. As for being sensitive, your mileage may very.
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  5. #225
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    Oneiron Fuchs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    I've had it worse playing as RDM. I have had healers tell me "don't expect to get much healing out of me, Mr. Dualcast cure." So many boss fights I've had to completely stop dpsing and heal myself, the final 3.0 dungeons are the worst. I've said it once before, Healers are the most sensitive player pool in this game.
    I think i can speak for EVERY healer here, that has some braincells, (if this is true what you're telling - never heard something this extremly in that direction), that we dont share that opinion. it's just utter bullshit...
    and about the sensitive part, dont you generalize and exaggerate it abit..?

    i feel like something is really disconcerting about these threads these last days, some weeks ago, people cried about healers not dpsing, now its about healers dpsing

    is the situation really this bad? i cant see it - i mean sure there has been bad situations, but there allways will be. ? i've come nicely through the content of stormblood so far.. there have been bad moments, but for the most part it was funny mastering the new dungeos and so on - speaking as a solo player using mostly IM

    pls for gods sake, just respect the others class role. just think twice before reacting.. dont start a fuss without a real reason
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    Last edited by Fukuro; 07-04-2017 at 06:44 AM.

  6. #226
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    I think i can speak for EVERY healer here, that has some braincells, (if this is true what you're telling - never heard something this extremly in that direction), that we dont share that opinion. it's just utter bullshit...
    and about the sensitive part, dont you generalize and exaggerate it abit..?
    Not at all, healers have been flustered I suppose is the right word in the case, since 2.0. The core of the class, which is explained on through the novice hall, is to weave in damage while maintaining party health. As ironic as it maybe a healer is supposed to find balance between damage and healing where a RDM is supposed to find balance between white and black.

    If you only choose to heal, you're in the end not playing to your fullest, and by choosing to heal in a limited fraction you're not healping either. In my cases of healers refusing to heal me, because I can in some capacity self sustain as RDM, is becoming more of a thing, mostly due to healers seeing the party composed with a RDM as a healer.

    That is more ignorance on the part of healers, as RDM healing is supposed to be utilized in very limited situations, usually as a last resort or to help top off the party after raid wide damage is dealt, or in the event of a transition like Alexander going from part 1 to part 2.

    Many healers are having this crisis because most can't find this middle ground to stay in, or they chose to be on one end of the spectrum. When asked to maintain a balance, many healers historically on this forum have thrown up their arms more times then I can count over how their job role should be handled. Though many healers have torn apart those that think they don't need to play more balanced, the player pool still remains flustered.
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    Last edited by Jetstream_Fox; 07-04-2017 at 07:27 AM.

  7. #227
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    Yevol Valeriant
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    Got flamed another day for asking the healer to help dps. Not sure if the others were queuing with him, but found it really idiot

    I changed my strategy though, if the healer is just heal-botting, I make sure to stand on all orange areas. They are going to heal anyway, so better make their work worth it lol
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  8. #228
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    YitharV2's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HELLruler View Post
    Got flamed another day for asking the healer to help dps. Not sure if the others were queuing with him, but found it really idiot

    I changed my strategy though, if the healer is just heal-botting, I make sure to stand on all orange areas. They are going to heal anyway, so better make their work worth it lol
    That reminds me of a FC mate who plays DRG. He stood in an AoE on purpose. "Oh no I'm gonna be in this AoE." "gotta make arnar work" And I'm like "dang it I'm trying to esuna" because our tank had multiple debuffs on him. And he was like "get gud".

    But I agree if you have a healbot, STAND IN ALL THE AOES
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  9. #229
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    You obviously have no experience or knowledge of playing healers, casters, or ranged DDs in SB.
    Come on Taika. You should know better than reply to Thunda_Cat when she makes ridiculous statements.
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  10. #230
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    Oneiron Fuchs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
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    the only thing i can say to this is, that im sorry for healers like these - and as a defense, i've never seen something like that extreme nor heard something like this from other dps, and again, a healer with a normal functioning brain wouldn't say something like that. i plan on lvling redmage next. maybe i'll change my mind, but i wouldn't bet on it - it sounds to insane to me, that i could imagine it acutally happen to me (maybe some "player" with a flaming personality that had a bad day could be that insane)

    about that sensitiv part - i still cant give you that point - there are very (very, very) sensitive people in this game and i met many of those, form ALL class roles, in all those years, i still can't distinguish a players attidute by his class role...
    there are players struggeling with the balance. healers that cant controll healing/dpsing, tanks that pull everything or dont know their rotations, dps that facewall every monster and dont dare to move, or neither do know their rotations... and all of those are a small percentage of the acutall player base - and thats why i aked you if you're not generalizing and exaggerating it abit
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    Last edited by Fukuro; 07-04-2017 at 07:56 AM.

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