Why can't we just have unlimited housing?

[KisaiTenshi]

I don't get why people are against cash shop idea?
I pay for FFXIV. I'd like to experience a -massive- part of the game. And even with more than enough gil to buy a house, It's pretty well impossible for me to get one.

So what's the downside if i Paid $40 a month extra for a house? Some people would be willing to pay. Which would probably free up gil-only wards for people who can't pay. Everyone wins.

Because FFXIV isn't supposed to be a P2W game. Cash shops in a Subscription game are supposed to be used sparingly for "permanent" features. A "cash shop" house would literately be a "buy once" feature that gives you a housing deed, and you go find a place to plop down the house. Or to reference the earlier post http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4260315 , open up something in the game world that would otherwise be abused by bots that isn't already walled off by an expansion pack.


Bots can, will, and typically are the first owners of housing paid with RMT money because they can just straight up teleport to the house and place a bid before you even take one foot step into the housing area. Then they try to flip it.

That's the thing, is that housing is supposed to be something you earn, not just handed out like candy. Maybe if the housing wasn't bought with gil, but bought with a combination of Centurio seals, Tomes and Wolf Marks, it would actually feel like a something earned by participating in all parts of the game.

[Azurymber]

How is paying $40 a month (or even $80 a month) for a house any different than paying for additional retainers?

Can avoid RMT by making it unflippable. Monthly payment to rent. Can't trade away.

[KisaiTenshi]

How is paying $40 a month (or even $80 a month) for a house any different than paying for additional retainers?

Additional retainers impact the market. They shouldn't exist in the first place. If an instanced housing system existed with it's own storage you'd see people get rid of additional retainers that they only use for storage.

[Nixxe]

How is paying $40 a month (or even $80 a month) for a house any different than paying for additional retainers?

Because for something so desired as housing putting it in the cash shop, especially for such an exorbitant fee (like really, are you trolling?) is basically an incentive to SE to never fix the problem, in direct conflict with the hopes of most of these aspiring homeowners.

Additional retainers impact the market. They shouldn't exist in the first place.

Two retainers is entirely inadequate for anyone making serious use of the MB due to both storage requirements for crafting stock and the need for additional MB slots.

[Lexia]

How is paying $40 a month (or even $80 a month) for a house any different than paying for additional retainers?

Can avoid RMT by making it unflippable. Monthly payment to rent. Can't trade away.

Besides the people with more money then brains who would pay that monthly for a house?

[Azurymber]

Because for something so desired as housing putting it in the cash shop, especially for such an exorbitant fee (like really, are you trolling?) is basically an incentive to SE to never fix the problem, in direct conflict with the hopes of most of these aspiring homeowners.

It's been years. At this point does anyone really expect them to "fix" the problem?
A huge part of end-game is housing. And the only way to get it is to pay someone else 100 to 200mil to abandon a plot.
Would much rather just cash shop it, even at a high price.

[Azurymber]

Besides the people with more money then brains who would pay that monthly for a house?

People with a day-job who don't have time to farm the 100 to 200mil being asked to abandon a large plot.

[Lexia]

People with a day-job who don't have time to farm the 100 to 200mil being asked to abandon a large plot.

I have a day job and have a house and did not pay 100 million for a house. People that pay that much are a fool and only add to the problem of encourage people to buy land just to resell for a inflated price.

[Nixxe]

It's been years. At this point does anyone really expect them to "fix" the problem?
A huge part of end-game is housing. And the only way to get it is to pay someone else 100 to 200mil to abandon a plot.
Would much rather just cash shop it, even at a high price.

For 100 to 200 million, you had better be getting a mansion. I'm not terribly concerned with the going rate for smalls or mediums, but they should both be well under 100 million, even if bought from another player, based on the prices I've heard tossed around.

And they're adding a new housing ward, which will help to some extent. I don't think fixing is a high priority for them, but I don't think it's absent from their to-do list either.

[Azurymber]

I have a day job and have a house and did not pay 100 million for a house. People that pay that much are a fool and only add to the problem of engouring people to buy land just to resell for a inflated price.

How else are you supposed to get a house? Wards are completely full. Unless you get lucky and beat the queue you don't get one. I've tried every time they have been available and have been sitting on more than enough for a large house for 2 years now. And on our server unless your friend is leaving, large plots cost over 100mil just to abandon.