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  1. #21
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    Kleeya's Avatar
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    Kleeya White
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    Shiva
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Actually i did find a good side to the MCH low dps : to detect when you are among below average players without needing a parser for it. I mean, with all the complaint there is about the job, and with me being not that well stuffed, i shouldn't be able to take the aggro back from 20+ players hitting the same hunt target XD

    Still like the idea and looks of the class. By far my favourite in the game. Still there are a few things that I just don't get:

    SAM Katana sheats, RDM jewels and sometimes AST duel discs are different depending on the weapon. Our lunchbox and Gaus Barrel always looks the same. Would it kill them to go the extra mile and atleast make the Barrel an individual fit for every weapon? There seems to be no problem with going the extra mile with other classes.
    The box and the gauss barrel are unique items developped and given to you by Stephanivien. Each time you find a new weapon you are changing only the gun. Unlike other jobs it wouldn't make sense lore-wise to find whole new sets in some dungeon.
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  2. #22
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    NovaLevossida's Avatar
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    Kaiser Sturmwind
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    The box and the gauss barrel are unique items developped and given to you by Stephanivien. Each time you find a new weapon you are changing only the gun. Unlike other jobs it wouldn't make sense lore-wise to find whole new sets in some dungeon.
    It doesn't make sense lore-wise for anything to be dropping guns for you. I'm fine with no explanation or treating the drops as modification kits to the lunch box, etc. But using the "because lore" as a reason against it is the same reason SMNs have had the most terrible looking egis since the game launched.
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  3. #23
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    Elnidfse's Avatar
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    Rigel Regulus
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    Tonberry
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by NovaLevossida View Post
    It doesn't make sense lore-wise for anything to be dropping guns for you. I'm fine with no explanation or treating the drops as modification kits to the lunch box, etc. But using the "because lore" as a reason against it is the same reason SMNs have had the most terrible looking egis since the game launched.
    But she's not wrong. SAM sheath changes because they're using a different weapon. But we're not using a different weapon. The device on our hip might as well be a one of a kind
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  4. #24
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    Georashi's Avatar
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    Keroko Georashi
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    Moogle
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Elnidfse View Post
    But she's not wrong. SAM sheath changes because they're using a different weapon. But we're not using a different weapon. The device on our hip might as well be a one of a kind
    Yet by the same tokens Red mages should not have their jewels changing either, or get any weapon drops at all for that matter, since red magic is unique.
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  5. #25
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    Heimdal Gjallarhorn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 70
    How does one contact SE about how crappy they are now? In case they don't look at data...(I'm sure they do).

    Just want to make sure they know how bottom of the barrel it is. Either add more utility, or add a lot more damage. I vote more damage...
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  6. #26
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    NovaLevossida's Avatar
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    Kaiser Sturmwind
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Elnidfse View Post
    But she's not wrong. SAM sheath changes because they're using a different weapon. But we're not using a different weapon. The device on our hip might as well be a one of a kind
    Never claimed she was, just saying that we don't have to be the poor kid carrying the same dull lunch box for another two years "because lore."
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  7. #27
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    Myon Miya
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    Tonberry
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    Viper Lv 100
    Yeah, you need to realize that the lore is post-rationalized to explain game design decisions sometimes. If they only want to have to design one lunchbox for everything, they'll make up a reason for it like how it is now. Conversely, they could just as easily decide to design unique aetherotransformers for every gun and put that reason in game.

    Writing lore generally isn't difficult, you just change a bit of text and bam; new models on the other hand take a lot of man hours to create, so I think you can understand what the real restriction is here - it's a shame we're the only job with this little downside.
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  8. #28
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    Gun-Cat's Avatar
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    M'rin Vhani
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    Balmung
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    Rogue Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Myon88 View Post
    Writing lore generally isn't difficult, you just change a bit of text and bam; new models on the other hand take a lot of man hours to create, so I think you can understand what the real restriction is here - it's a shame we're the only job with this little downside.
    Lunchbox can stay just as dull as our pets are, but if any class deserves to have their weapon models tinkered with then it is MCH. Stephanivien might give us the parts and plans for the Gauss Barrel, but it would fall to the MCH to actually apply them to the gun. Just like how they actually planned to do in the first place.

    http://imgur.com/a/Re4pe
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  9. #29
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    XgungraveX's Avatar
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    Gungrave Hellsing
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 90
    the heat gauge killed it for me, overheat its HUGE dps lost.
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  10. #30
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    Greedalox's Avatar
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by XgungraveX View Post
    the heat gauge killed it for me, overheat its HUGE dps lost.
    Only if you do it by accident at the wrong time. It's a DPS gain if intentionally overheated during Wildfires 3-5-7-9+ or it's excellent to naturally overheat while AOEing trash packs and then using flamethrower to snapshot the bonus damage on the last second of Overheat which will then carry you all the way past the 10 second removal of GB.

    And then there's obviously intentionally overheating before boss invulnerability or phase changes.
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    Last edited by Greedalox; 07-03-2017 at 12:46 PM.

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