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  1. #101
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    Dustytome's Avatar
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    Fox Briarthorn
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    Sargatanas
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    How long would Square have kept these smaller under-used servers if there was no population dispersal to them? They seem to give each world the same resources, so if Mateus didn't get a population increase they may have had to look at server merges. This influx of players ensures the survival of your server.
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  2. #102
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    Kinkoz's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Kinkoz Sagan
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayrie View Post
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    "The overall quality and mindset of the community has been split three ways and generally degraded now that our server has been opened to free transfers and people have been arriving here in droves, even though it wasn't this way beforehand."

    "Maybe everyone was always like this and it's just more obvious now! How dare you generalize a bunch of people like that!"

    I mean, Ayrie, your perception COULD potentially be the correct one, but considering that there's been an observable change in the atmosphere of the server with this new population increase, kcrclark's point could be just as valid as well. Making a lot of assumptions here, either way.

    It's not as though I'm in a position to say with any certainty, given that I don't play on Mateus myself. I'm certainly hearing a lot more stuff when it comes to Mateus lately, however.
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  3. #103
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    Aylis Tessier
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annah View Post
    wait...housing has been available for a very long time now

    You're telling me your fc couldnt get gil together after all that time to get a house? You said yourself there were a lot of empty lots
    Sounds to me like they were going off the servers structure as it was in the past and assumed it would always be like that and didn't prioritize getting the house ASAP

    *month 1*
    Eh, the lots are still pretty much empty...we got time

    *month 3*
    Well...the same lots and wards are still empty...we got time

    *month 6*
    One lot got sold, but lots are still empty...so we got time.

    *Month 10*
    So many lots are empty, were fine...we got lots of time

    *Month 12*
    *Stormblood launches. High population servers are having large que issues*
    *free server transfers open*
    ....well ****
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  4. #104
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    Hikaru Matsumura
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    Quote Originally Posted by PharisHanasaki View Post
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    Whoa. I didn't say YOU were a crafter. I only said that cause that's like the go to defense when someone says they can't make money in this game. I was only killing that defense before it was made. And it wasn't mainly for you.. just in general. I was just offering a defense for the OP, like I said. I don't know the details but there's always 2 sides to a coin. We don't know if she worked hard or not. I was just providing a defense is all... :c
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  5. #105
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    IttyBitty's Avatar
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    Kasumi Shirinami
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I, for one, am glad to see people around everywhere I go, compared to the empty wasteland that Mateus used to be. The free transfers have breathed life into this poor server. I welcome newcomers with open arms.

    You've had plenty of time to scrimp, save, wheel and deal your way to a house if you really wanted one. It's unfortunate that a ward has been bought up by a pair of players, but that's SE's fault for allowing you to buy more than one personal and FC house per server.
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  6. #106
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkoz View Post
    I mean, Ayrie, your perception COULD potentially be the correct one, but considering that there's been an observable change in the atmosphere of the server with this new population increase, kcrclark's point could be just as valid as well. Making a lot of assumptions here, either way.

    It's not as though I'm in a position to say with any certainty, given that I don't play on Mateus myself. I'm certainly hearing a lot more stuff when it comes to Mateus lately, however.
    I have seen more hate on people from Balmung for random as things than ever before lol. An S rank spawned, it had died before i got there, and I'm just seeing people in shout yelling at Balmung players, saying early pulling had never happened before the transfers came. Meanwhile, were sitting in PF for an A rank, shouted, no one joins the party. took us 15 mins to kill it, no one ever showed up.

    I don't think anyone really cares about hunts, they just want to blame people for things.
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  7. #107
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    Ayrie Lumire
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    Mateus
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkoz View Post
    "The overall quality and mindset of the community has been split three ways and generally degraded now that our server has been opened to free transfers and people have been arriving here in droves, even though it wasn't this way beforehand."

    "Maybe everyone was always like this and it's just more obvious now! How dare you generalize a bunch of people like that!"

    I mean, Ayrie, your perception COULD potentially be the correct one, but considering that there's been an observable change in the atmosphere of the server with this new population increase, kcrclark's point could be just as valid as well. Making a lot of assumptions here, either way.

    It's not as though I'm in a position to say with any certainty, given that I don't play on Mateus myself. I'm certainly hearing a lot more stuff when it comes to Mateus lately, however.
    If we assume the population increased by 5000%, but we assume that people largely operate in the same proportions on Mateus as everywhere else in the world (unless Mateus is really unlucky and draws purely unsavory characters). That means you get the same proportion of good, quiet people looking to enjoy themselves and not stinking up the place as you get "poo floating in the pool".

    The only difference is... everyone notices the 50x more poo floating around.

    It is easy to.

    It is a lot harder noticing the others who just want to play in peace for the first time all expansion because before they were locked out for hours on end.

    I'll continue operating with the assumption that people and population on Mateus are the same as they are everywhere else, and you have the usual assortment of quality players as well as the degenerate population.

    That's the difference in the generalizations. His is specific and largely unprovable.
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    Last edited by Ayrie; 07-01-2017 at 04:51 AM.

  8. #108
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    Kinkoz's Avatar
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    Kinkoz Sagan
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayrie View Post
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    Your generalization is equally without solid proof unless you were to take some form of organized census to discover how many people, as of the release of Stormblood (counting early access as well), transferred over to Mateus, and maybe, to take it a step further, to see how many of them formerly came from Balmung at that. You're arguing theory at this point, while opting to assume a much more "transfer-friendly" stance as opposed to kcr's position on the matter.
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    Last edited by Kinkoz; 07-01-2017 at 05:15 AM.

  9. #109
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    PharisHanasaki's Avatar
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    Sodapop Jam
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    Jenova
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hikuras View Post
    Whoa. I didn't say YOU were a crafter. I only said that cause that's like the go to defense when someone says they can't make money in this game. I was only killing that defense before it was made. And it wasn't mainly for you.. just in general. I was just offering a defense for the OP, like I said. I don't know the details but there's always 2 sides to a coin. We don't know if she worked hard or not. I was just providing a defense is all... :c
    Well, you replied to MY comment. I for one, do not fit anywhere in your generalized profile. So sorry if I seemed offended, but in reality I was.
    Trust me, I've been keeping an eye on the market, selling stuff when it's relevant.
    I got my first house on march 2016. FC gave us around 1.5 million, our house cost 5m because we had to give the seller a 2m fee and then purchase the plot for 3m.

    So yeah, I said my FC cooperated because the fact that they worked so hard to earn that million gil meant a lot to me since they were just starting. But my sister and I put the mayority of the money for the plot, the house and the furniture. We spent a little over 13m that week. And we did 0 crafting at that time.
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  10. #110
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    Hikaru Matsumura
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    I replied to your comment cause you made it out to seem like the OP didn't do shit when we don't know if they did or not, OR why they couldn't get a place. I'm sure there's a few reasons why she didn't or couldn't get one before this all happened is all I'm saying.
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