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    Quote Originally Posted by YitharV2 View Post
    Also, I never told a healer that they needed to DPS. I just sat quietly in frustration doing my job.
    I rarely badger them when I see Healers play pure healing only. I use it as an excuse to push a more aggressive play style and see if they keep up. If they pipe up I usually respond with a rant about party synergy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrCynapsis View Post
    I rarely badger them when I see Healers play pure healing only. I use it as an excuse to push a more aggressive play style and see if they keep up. If they pipe up I usually respond with a rant about party synergy.
    That is the correct way to go about it. If you pull one group and the healer is barely doing anything, go for two. You can keep going until the healer has no time to DPS at all. Keeping in mind that the healer can typically handle two pulls easily, but you are completely on your own for crowd control if you pull too much. A healer can not heal a squishy tank that pulls everything to the boss room.

    That said, each healer is different. WHM can easily pull off Holy, Assize and Aero III within 5 seconds on any pull and then not do any additional DPS, (at that point the damage should stop for 5 seconds) but that still requires the tank to gather the trash together, and if the DPS are firing on the mobs as you pull them, that doesn't happen. The other side of this is I should not need to use benediction on a tank during a pull. If I need to use it, it's either because you the tank are too squishy, or I miss-timed/missed healing the tank (which happens when you accidentally click the floor before casting.) When I cast Holy I always move out of the way because the mob AOE's may still be there, but I can't see them once the holy animation starts.

    With AST, Gravity isn't Holy. That effect is on Celestial Opposition, and does no damage. Thus it's rarely going to be used except to interrupt a mob's casting. Earthly Star/Stellar Detonation has the effect similar to Assize. An AST can't do the same AOE damage a WHM can, thus Assize or Earthly Star/Stellar Detonation are the only DPS attacks you should always see being used because they also recover HP. As a Healer I try to toss the DoT's out if there is time, but that time only exists on a small pull. Scholar, has no AOE DPS other than Shadow Flare, rather the way Scholar works is they have to single target bio, miasma and then use Bane to spread it to the enemies nearby. That again only works if the Tank has pulled the mobs close together.

    Hence the DPS players need to wait for the tank to collect the trash, and the tank also needs to wait for all the trash to die before running off to the next pull. Otherwise you may start the next pull with the healer having already used their MP cooldowns, and having only half their MP.
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