I quit

[Ogulbuk]

I played a Warrior during Heavensward, lol. I'm also aware of the changes to IB and SP. The IB/SP change isn't super significant tbh. However, we also did get Rampart, which is a step up from Foresight.

I would say if a Warrior stayed in Defiance (which seems to be what SE wants), the survivability difference between then and now is not that different. However, in Deliverance, Fell Cleave and Decimate did make Bloodbath a very powerful CD.

I mean you still have Equilibrium, Thrill of Battle, Vengeance, Raw Intuition, Inner Beast. All very powerful CDs.

There wont ever be anything like Unchained And/or Berserk +Blood Bath + Overpower Spam on a group of foes.

Not sure about DRK, but PLD can heal themselves for so much more with Clemency.

I never miss any of this on boss fights, but I sure miss it in large spawn piles.

[Kabooa]

There wont ever be anything like Unchained And/or Berserk +Blood Bath + Overpower Spam on a group of foes.

Not sure about DRK, but PLD can heal themselves for so much more with Clemency.

I never miss any of this on boss fights, but I sure miss it in large spawn piles.

Having just got Dark to 70, Blackest Night is pretty sweet. Don't have to heal damage you don't take.

[YitharV2]

There wont ever be anything like Unchained And/or Berserk +Blood Bath + Overpower Spam on a group of foes.

Not sure about DRK, but PLD can heal themselves for so much more with Clemency.

I never miss any of this on boss fights, but I sure miss it in large spawn piles.

Unchained is useless at 70 though anyways since it shares a cooldown with Inner Release.



I do say I miss the synergy between offense and defense, and I wish they kept Bloodbath, but I'd also say Warrior is still viable nonetheless. It just depends a bit more on your healer now. My reason for not playing it anymore is just that it isn't fun for me anymore, rather than it not being viable.

[Ogulbuk]

I do say I miss the synergy between offense and defense, and I wish they kept Bloodbath, but I'd also say Warrior is still viable nonetheless. It just depends a bit more on your healer now.

So you just addressed the point I originally replied to:

Assuming good cooldown usage, not much has changed in terms of tank survivability (besides stuff hitting harder), so I'm not sure what you're saying about having issues to keep them alive?

I don't deny it's viable, but now the healers do have to work harder at keeping warriors alive than they used to.

[YitharV2]

So you just addressed the point I originally replied to:

I don't deny it's viable, but now the healers do have to work harder at keeping warriors alive than they used to.

I mean, maybe my perspective is wrong, but I've felt that healers still needed to heal me with Unchained+Bloodbath+Berserk. What made a real difference was switching to Deliverance and combining it with Vengeance, and using 2x Decimate (which has 2x the potency of Overpower), but I kind of have to admit that was overpowered compared to the other 2 tanks.

I've healed all 3 tanks this expansion and I don't feel much of a difference between the 3. And I think that's what SE wants.