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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    I know that sucks pretty badly for non-tanks if their tank is doing that kind of shenanigans, but that's also the example that's still fresh in everyone's mind.
    Honestly, the only thing I can think of in that regard are the STR accessories, which should be fine for every semi-competent healer, as the accessories don't affect how much damage you take (No defense on them and tenacity is completely negligible) and nothing hits hard enough to one-shot tanks wearing them.

    I mean, I can understand it if someone is just randomly using gatherer equip, or switches his left side to level 50 stuff in expert or something, but that's about the extent to which I can see the issue here. And that, uh... hasn't happened to me, yet. And if it would, I'd probably just initiate a votekick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Honestly, the only thing I can think of in that regard are the STR accessories, which should be fine for every semi-competent healer, as the accessories don't affect how much damage you take (No defense on them and tenacity is completely negligible) and nothing hits hard enough to one-shot tanks wearing them.
    The issue isn't the healers ability to cover for it - it's still an exploit.

    It's also a bad reason to say an exploit is "ok".

    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    I mean, I can understand it if someone is just randomly using gatherer equip, or switches his left side to level 50 stuff in expert or something, but that's about the extent to which I can see the issue here. And that, uh... hasn't happened to me, yet. And if it would, I'd probably just initiate a votekick.
    Why should we wait to deal with an exploit before it affects you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Honestly, the only thing I can think of in that regard are the STR accessories, which should be fine for every semi-competent healer, as the accessories don't affect how much damage you take (No defense on them and tenacity is completely negligible) and nothing hits hard enough to one-shot tanks wearing them.
    Tell that to most STR tanks dropping by 10k HP and thinking they can tank susano Ex without problem. They're dead on pull before you know it because Susano Ex unannounced buster in P1 just deals enough damage with the following AA to wreck any non full-VIT tank. It's an other story in raid groups who know each other and can coordinate better (rotating tank CDs and provoke after 2nd buster in susano's case to prevent retarded death as an example, + it gives more hate generation with shirk shenanigans), but in DF/PF/RF gimping yourself that much is just a big fat NO.
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