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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    That's a bit much. Poisoning people's drunking water and videogame queues are not the same thing.
    The basic idea of "well you wouldn't have these issues if you left" still applies. "You choose to stay there whatever the reason which says that you are ok with the ques. Its a personal choice really."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    You are extremely out of line with this comment and should feel ashamed of yourself.

    Leave real world tragedy out of this, it has no place here.
    Agreed. What a pathetic, disgusting comment that was.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExKage View Post
    The basic idea of "well you wouldn't have these issues if you left" still applies. "You choose to stay there whatever the reason which says that you are ok with the ques. Its a personal choice really."
    Then don't use a real world crisis, which is causing deaths, extreme health issues, and those affected at the time had no control over.

    The difference is not only a Video Game, you still have OPTIONS, They DIDNT.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExKage View Post
    The basic idea of "well you wouldn't have these issues if you left" still applies. "You choose to stay there whatever the reason which says that you are ok with the ques. Its a personal choice really."
    It's a comparison that crossed the border on being histrionic. It's also a false equivalency. The citizens of Flint are overwhelmingly poor minorities who can't afford to leave their homes. I'm going to guess that you're doing better than that in life.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    Then don't use a real world crisis, which is causing deaths, extreme health issues, and those affected at the time had no control over.

    The difference is not only a Video Game, you still have OPTIONS, They DIDNT.
    It's a poor as fuck, I agree. It however seems to be the only thing that can get it through some peoples' minds that it is not simple. MOVING is never simple. But you still have plenty of people who say that the option is simple, they should have left months after the world found out about it because it is still happening. Nothing there was solved. Flint still has issues with its water supply and rich, privileged people will say it's as simple as "you just transfer". People say the same thing about other similarly-threatening issues. Poor school environments. Bad rental situations.

    The point is that "you can move" is NOT simple and that it is not an easy task.
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  6. #36
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    This discussion is getting completely south and digressed.

    Moving is a choice while one paying for a subscription to play this game is considered one's privilege. The question we should rather be asking is: "If they really want congested players to move out from the start, then why haven't they implemented more Wards like reserved for transfers and players first and why haven't they implemented Free Company transfers yet?" And also another question we should be asking is "why did they not think about instance based housing from 2.1 and not allow players to buy plots from 2.3?"
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldotsk View Post
    This discussion is getting completely south and digressed.

    Moving is a choice while one paying for a subscription to play this game is considered one's privilege. The question we should rather be asking is: "If they really want congested players to move out from the start, then why haven't they implemented more Wards like reserved for transfers and players first and why haven't they implemented Free Company transfers yet?" And also another question we should be asking is "why did they not think about instance based housing from 2.1 and not allow players to buy plots from 2.3?"
    Do you know nothing about housing on other servers? They aren't nearly as bad as Balmung, and some still have a lot of empty space. Why should they reserve space on servers that have dozens of empty lots still?
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Do you know nothing about housing on other servers? They aren't nearly as bad as Balmung, and some still have a lot of empty space. Why should they reserve space on servers that have dozens of empty lots still?
    I don't know. Maybe because -not- all housing specific plots like Large/Medium are available in some servers. If an FC/personal housing in Balmung was Large or Medium in Plot 45, and then they realize that the world they are moving to is taken, it cannot be transferred. Some people won't even bother to get it refunded and remain in Balmung.

    Reserved Wards needs to happen to make sure that the housing transfer will work out and people would really consider moving out of congested server.
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  9. #39
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    lol, disregard everything I wrote earlier. Well except the part about this being all Square-E's fault. Because it is. The last page of this thread has finally convinced me that Balmung is too crazy for me. Here I come, Mateus! That's minus .01 on your congestion problems. Oh, try holocaust denial next, maybe that'll convince more people to give up on this freakshow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
    Well except the part about this being all Square-E's fault. Because it is.
    Blaming SE for player choice, when they have already given incentive (which they didn't even HAVE to do), is disgusting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aldotsk View Post
    I don't know. Maybe because -not- all housing specific plots like Large/Medium are available in some servers. If an FC/personal housing in Balmung was Large or Medium in Plot 45, and then they realize that the world they are moving to is taken, it cannot be transferred. Some people won't even bother to get it refunded and remain in Balmung.

    Reserved Wards needs to happen to make sure that the housing transfer will work out and people would really consider moving out of congested server.
    If you aren't going to transfer because you can;t keep your house then fine. But don't complain about queue times or blame SE for your choices.
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