Why is Yoshi-P's team repeating the original developer's mistakes?

[Judah]

You know, we can apply this same philosophy to everything.

Why did they implement new stat algorithms (which make ARC inferior) when they weren't done with the class action changes (shifting ARC class role)? That's a 'design flaw' as according to Judah.

Why did they implement a new system intended to be used along with a feature that isn't going to be released yet? 'Design flaw'.

I'd say that this has nothing to do with the design (because everything works according to the grand design plan), but that because said plan is introduced in stages and not all at once, there will be inconveniences in the meantime.

You are essentially saying that they shouldn't release anything before all the related features are complete as well. Then, we could instead have someone else make a thread about why SE never releases any patches.

Maybe they should make it so every feature in existence is completely unrelated to anything and everything that comes before or afterwards, making these sort of issues disappear!

You clearly have no idea what your talking about. This thread is about the current development team making the same mistakes that the initial development team, mind you who have all been fired, made in their initial development of the game.

The flaws in the materia system have nothing to do with future plans of implementation. It is just a poorly designed system which will only force some sort of revision after an exodus of complaining and head scratching it will create.

[Zangetsu]

If every materia gave the same number then it would be too easy to get the best gear possible. The way it is now keep the economy flowing since you need to tear through tons of gear to get the exact materia you want. I have gone through maybe 100 pieces of gear and I have yet to see a +20 stat. I think when I do get one I'll be very happy. When I'm about to turn gear into materia I get that feeling like when I opened a pack of pokemon cards! I know I'm gonna get something but what will it be and will it be a normal card or a holographic?! I don't want materia to be predictable. That would be boring. Having variety in types and numeric value makes it interesting.

[Betelgeuzah]

This thread is about the current development team making the same mistakes that the initial development team, mind you who have all been fired, made in their initial development of the game.

Old team's grand plan was what we saw in 2010, and it did not work out at all.

New teams' grand plan will be realized over time and whatever happens before it is ready can be hardly called a design flaw. They are aware of it, working on a solution, but decided to not release the two systems simultaneously because one of them is not ready/not able to be implemented in this build.

[Judah]

If every materia gave the same number then it would be too easy to get the best gear possible. The way it is now keep the economy flowing since you need to tear through tons of gear to get the exact materia you want. I have gone through maybe 100 pieces of gear and I have yet to see a +20 stat. I think when I do get one I'll be very happy. When I'm about to turn gear into materia I get that feeling like when I opened a pack of pokemon cards! I know I'm gonna get something but what will it be and will it be a normal card or a holographic?! I don't want materia to be predictable. That would be boring. Having variety in types and numeric value makes it interesting.

And how much materia have you actually socketed?

All the system does is create waste. People reject materia with lesser values, while they hold out for higher value materia. If the goal was simply to force players to craft and stimulate the economy, they should just give the process a rate of failure, or have them break down into other USEFUL items. Producing waste is not exciting gameplay.

[Betelgeuzah]

All the system does is create waste. People reject materia with lesser values, while they hold out for higher value materia.

Which is completely insane, because attaching two tier II STR+5 materias that cost 100k each is better than attaching one tier IV STR+10 materia that costs 5 million, even if you failed 20 times in doing so. This is the current reality, and it will change over time because people will sooner or later catch up and stop being morons.

[Judah]

Old team's grand plan was what we saw in 2010, and it did not work out at all.

New teams' grand plan will be realized over time and whatever happens before it is ready can be hardly called a design flaw. They are aware of it, working on a solution, but decided to not release the two systems simultaneously because one of them is not ready/not able to be implemented in this build.

It's like talking to a brick wall with you, isn't it?

Like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Redirect these little gifts you post to threads on lighter subjects.

[Judah]

Which is completely insane, because attaching two tier II STR+5 materias that cost 100k each is better than attaching one tier IV STR+10 materia that costs 5 million, even if you failed 20 times in doing so. This is the current reality, and it will change over time because people will sooner or later catch up and stop being morons.

You just proved with this response that you have no idea how the current system works. Stop posting.

[Betelgeuzah]

It's like talking to a brick wall with you, isn't it?

Like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Redirect these little gifts you post to threads on lighter subjects.

This is why Treach had the best reply so far.

When every response will be "lol u rong" (not surprisingly in a troll thread), it's better to just state the obvious and be on your merry way.

[Judah]

This is why Treach had the best reply so far.

When every response will be "lol u rong" (not surprisingly in a troll thread), it's better to just state the obvious and be on your merry way.

You realize Treach's response was trolling, right? You apparently don't know the definition of that, either.

Like I said, stop posting. You're just embarrassing yourself.

[Bearforce]

This is why Treach had the best reply so far.

this is why you dont know how to reply? pretty much it sums who you are

When every response will be "lol u rong" (not surprisingly in a troll thread), it's better to just state the obvious and be on your merry way.

reread what he posted. when you post, you post in denial.