Against "Simultaneous Logout Measures"

[Hyperia]

Even if this is staggered, the lobby server is going to be pushed to its limits. I do not believe this is the right course of action and they should address the root cause instead.

If people refuse to leave a full server then the long queue times are the price they pay for playing on that server. To punish everybody for their choice is concerning.

[Serret]

This is becoming insulting quite frankly.

Videogame or not, this is an online service and people are paying a subscription along with all the extras from the cash shop.
Some scheduled vacations for the launch of Stormblood only to be greeted by a mess and endless queues.
Then a majority of players who gets home from work and can only play during prime time are also greeted with queues, laggy housing districts, malfunctioning dungeon finders along other issues.

And now to further add to it, SE wants to punish paying subscribers further by implementing FORCED boot out of the game for all players(ironically now that queues are slowly stabilizing...).
I am expecting the log in servers to be flooded after the 10 minute sit out and a new queue problem making the experience for everyone considerably worse. I really hope that I am wrong about this though.

In any other online service subscribers would have been COMPENSATED by now.

[Kuutamo]

There is a rumour going around that this came from the higher ups (above Yoshida) and that he is going along with it for when it fails to prove to them they need a bigger server budget.

Others are also saying it's against the current ToS that SE have in place.

[Ransu]

You'd rather wait literal hours each day to get in while people sit afk?

Or wait, no, you'd rather the servers continue to be congested due to thousands of people sitting in the server doing nothing, while other try to log in putting strain on the authentication servers?

Gotcha, your plan is better. Christ the things people complain about these days.

Or they could do the logical thing and, ya know, patch the exploit so that the afk timer kicks them out properly.

[Rysir]

Your idea is bad.

Heres a new idea then: Make the current auto log out not a shitty invisible macro of the player action /logout so it actually cuts connection and boot all the abusers using interactables.

And it is a shitty macro of the logout command as you even get the usual command error if you let the kicker go. Thats the real reason people get away with staring at npcs.

[Catwho]

Even if this is staggered, the lobby server is going to be pushed to its limits. I do not believe this is the right course of action and they should address the root cause instead.

If people refuse to leave a full server then the long queue times are the price they pay for playing on that server. To punish everybody for their choice is concerning.

Actually no, the lobby servers exist for the sole reason of getting hammered first so the world servers don't. The lobby servers are designed to handle 3000 people who were just booted trying to log back in again.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Holy hell you guys, it just logs you out to remove the thousands of people sitting idle congesting the servers. You'll be able to immediately log back in, likely with minimal queue times because the afk people will be off server.


But please, cry more about a good thing.

I'm on a server where queues aren't an issue at all, nor is excessive afking, but I'll have to deal with this too. Would you still say a forced 10 minute logout is such a good thing for people here?

[Kallera]

There is a rumour going around that this came from the higher ups (above Yoshida) and that he is going along with it for when it fails to prove to them they need a bigger server budget.

Others are also saying it's against the current ToS that SE have in place.

They are rumors until they are confirmed. It is still an action that is in Yoshida's (and SE's)ballpark.

[Alleo]

An hour warning is still enough to queue and finish a dungeon for most, with the added bonus of kicking players to make room for more people that might queue up.

This is only enough for tanks and healers...us DD are waiting too long to be able to run a dungeon when they announce it. Yesterday I was waiting nearly 50 minutes before I could do the dungeon which often takes 25+ minutes. Also lets not forget that after story dungeons you will have cutscenes too that people might want to watch..so no as soon as they announce it you can stop going into the instance as a DD.

Instead of punishing their customers maybe they should have looked into renting additional server space just like WoW does..how will this go if FF14 becomes more popular? They cant always just look away and hope that stuff will fix itself..especially since that means that people dont stick with the game.

[Freyar]

This is only enough for tanks and healers...us DD are waiting too long to be able to run a dungeon when they announce it. Yesterday I was waiting nearly 50 minutes before I could do the dungeon which often takes 25+ minutes. Also lets not forget that after story dungeons you will have cutscenes too that people might want to watch..so no as soon as they announce it you can stop going into the instance as a DD.

Instead of punishing their customers maybe they should have looked into renting additional server space just like WoW does..how will this go if FF14 becomes more popular? They cant always just look away and hope that stuff will fix itself..especially since that means that people dont stick with the game.

That's assuming that FFXIV's server architecture has that kind of scalability.