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  1. #101
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    Said this before and Ill say it again the RP community is its own worst enemy. RP'ers won't move unless their friends and connections move, if their friends and connections don't move then they don't move. So slapping a RP Tag on a server won't do a damn bit of good until the RP community itself puts some fire under its own REAR END and encourages people to move.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Said this before and Ill say it again the RP community is its own worst enemy. RP'ers won't move unless their friends and connections move, if their friends and connections don't move then they don't move. So slapping a RP Tag on a server won't do a damn bit of good until the RP community itself puts some fire under its own REAR END and encourages people to move.
    I'm pretty sure the call for a designated RP server is because they want Balmung to be designated said server and then they can try to leverage it to force the non-RPers out the door. I rarely see this argument brought up in which a server other than Balmung is designated "the RP server".
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dement View Post
    I'm pretty sure the call for a designated RP server is because they want Balmung to be designated said server and then they can try to leverage it to force the non-RPers out the door. I rarely see this argument brought up in which a server other than Balmung is designated "the RP server".
    Which is exactly why Yoshi-P said he wasn't going to do that.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Said this before and Ill say it again the RP community is its own worst enemy. RP'ers won't move unless their friends and connections move, if their friends and connections don't move then they don't move. So slapping a RP Tag on a server won't do a damn bit of good until the RP community itself puts some fire under its own REAR END and encourages people to move.
    The reason RPers are hesitant to move is because an unofficial, fledgeling RP community is incredibly hard to sustain. An "official" designation means that anyone who wants to RP will create a character on that server, guaranteeing some measure of new community members, which is helped by Balmung being closed. The additional acknowledgement and stratification also makes an officially designated server quite appealing to RPers, since Balmung's population problems are because of the lack of organization to begin with, having been created via server merge.

    The premise that this is solely the community's responsibility makes the assumption that the community has given the proper tools to enact a smooth transition between worlds, which has been blatantly untrue since people started roleplaying on this game in 1.0.
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  5. #105
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    I don't see any officially designated raiding servers. Or officially designated crafting servers. Why should RPers get special treatment?
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    For what it's worth, I'm fine with the queue. It's a launch, this is what happens. However, blaming the players instead of SE is absolutely wrong.
    Thank you for proving my point. You chose to stay on the server even with the ques and thus more incentives are not needed and the issue is on you now, not SE. If you are not complaining then you are an awesome person cause you are agree with your own decisions to stay. If you are complaining, even after choosing to stay, then you are a hypocrite.

    If you have reasons to stay that out weigh the current incentives then sleep in the que grave you dug. They don't need to make the incentives any better, the unlimited gil is already highly potentially damaging to the new and preferred server economies.
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyt View Post
    I don't see any officially designated raiding servers. Or officially designated crafting servers. Why should RPers get special treatment?
    Speaking as a non RP'r - RP servers normally allow the company to include extra protections to encourage role play. They cloister it to specific servers so people with that interest have a gathering spot. I don't see a problem with it, it works fine in WoW. On a similar note, they are going to be creating WPVP servers in all likelihood, so creating a specific server for a player interest isn't that weird.
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teryaani View Post
    Speaking as a non RP'r - RP servers normally allow the company to include extra protections to encourage role play. They cloister it to specific servers so people with that interest have a gathering spot. I don't see a problem with it, it works fine in WoW. On a similar note, they are going to be creating WPVP servers in all likelihood, so creating a specific server for a player interest isn't that weird.
    I don't mind if they create player interest driven servers, but if they do it for RP, then they need to do it for all of the communities period. The fact that RPers specifically feel so entitled that they should get their own server (even going so far as to practically hold the entirety of Balmung hostage) while all the raiders and crafters are forced to find their own groups is ridiculous. There are in-game RP tags for a reason.

    Also, it's clear Blizzard cares deeply for it's RP community. I think it's safe to say Square doesn't give 2 s**ts about FFXIV RP community
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  9. #109
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    lol I love how all these ppl rush to defend S/E. Que times are S/Es fault. They were more than happy to accept payment to transfer to these larger servers. They should have locked them down loooong ago, but instead charged the customer to create the problem and now ask them to go back to a less pop server? Nope, I'm going to stay unless forced off.
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    It might fall back to where it was around HW launch but that was still quite a bit higher then all other servers but most people I know who have been here for a long time wont move regardless of what SE offers and queue will drop eventually before SB there was never a queue that took more then 1-2 min to get in.
    What I was implying is that I don't think they're going to unlock Balmung until it reaches the same population as every other server. The only way the population can go is down, and even after it becomes unlocked again, they're not going to let it go up above other server populations anymore. From what I can tell, this system is a new permanent layer to the previous character creation locks.
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