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  1. #21
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    YitharV2's Avatar
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    Arnar Grande
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Meghann View Post
    Poor healers, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
    I wish I could upvote this post more.
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  2. #22
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    RaquelleAvarosa's Avatar
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    Raquelle Rosalia
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    Tonberry
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Katryn View Post
    The trouble is that when someone dies in a group it is the healer's fault until proven otherwise. And proving otherwise is almost always harder than blaming the healer. The DPS issue just adds another route for blame to ensue.
    I get blamed for the stupid dps standing in the SUPER.MEGA.OBVIOUS. AoE, I really pity myself.

    On the side note, change Aetherflow back to 20% or RIOT! Change Embrace back to 300 potency or RIOT!
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    Last edited by RaquelleAvarosa; 06-27-2017 at 11:39 AM.

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keridwyn View Post
    Again, you have run into bad WHMs if they are dpsing their mana away. LD isn't our only cooldown. Thin Air makes things free, Assize refunds mana, Bene/Tetra/Asylum are all also free.

    1/10 bad WHMs doesn't mean we all should stop. The other 9 of us are just fine.

    You do bring up another point though. If you are pulling nonstop...are you waiting for your own cooldowns or are you ignoring them and expecting us to save you with ours?

    they were using it. I did say skills. Not just LD. Im not familiar with all the new healer skills. Me and my g/f farmed most of each dungeon, farm we run the same dungeon 7+ times before moving on to get all the gear and acc. Every healer was Oom during a after 2-3 pulls due to a mix of healing and ultra dps.

    for me this has been a 9/10 "bad healers", and seems like it for most people, if threads like this keep poping up. People haven't adjusted to the new changes, and it is becoming irritating. I never stated to stop dpsing, just not dps so much they run out.

    If you put healing first, and dps as a side thing. Then the thread is not about you, nor you should feel the need tp defend yourself. Idk why ppl feel like you killed their dog every time ppl speak up on something bad.


    And no my g/f nor myself save cool downs, she uses them to the point of near spamming it. Healers need to heal first and foremost that is their role. Do your role to the fullest before adding off role stuff. So yes, heal your tank regardless of their cd use. that your role as a healer -_-. It is team work, at a basic level. if you dpn't heal out of spite that makes you problematic, just like the dps who throw runs, or tanks refusing to tank because dps pulls. do your role to the fullest regardless of what others are doing. So even if it fails, at least you tried your hardest, and are not to blame.


    My g/f and myself wait for healer mp as well, not everyone likes it. they want/expect fast runs.
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    Last edited by BigRed5392; 06-27-2017 at 11:49 AM.

  4. #24
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    tinythinker's Avatar
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    Omi Senu
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Its_Elodie View Post
    These bait threads really need to stop
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neawPHsSep0
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  5. #25
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 55
    Maybe they'll stop when you actually start holding things.

    If I pop Diversion, I shouldn't be pulling off of you as a tank. Yet I am. And can. With Vercure.
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  6. #26
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    Keridwyn's Avatar
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    Keridwyn Maeve
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
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    I guess I need to start running as a dps because if 9/10 healers forgot something as basic as mana management then something is wrong. Because I DPS heavy and nobody has died from it nor have I gone below 30% mana at any given time. Save dying to that final boss.
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  7. #27
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Faerie
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I have two healers at 70 and I always DPS without any problems/dropping the tank. You have an issue with bad players, not healer DPS.
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  8. #28
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    Averax's Avatar
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    Ven Black
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    As im going through on sch, i find that i rarely need to care as compared to how much i had to pay attention as AST
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keridwyn View Post
    I guess I need to start running as a dps because if 9/10 healers forgot something as basic as mana management then something is wrong. Because I DPS heavy and nobody has died from it nor have I gone below 30% mana at any given time. Save dying to that final boss.
    ya i know, like I said people are not getting used to the changes. and by chill on dps, as in dps but not till your oom. I saw my g/f do doma castle and healer ran outa mp very often. And she used her cd pretty often. as in, she used it the sec the timer pinged. they nearly wiped on the final boss, cuz the healer mp was so low but managed.

    we have yet to run it for me, but she knows the dungeon now. But ya, i wasn't disagreeing with you, just saying people are allowed to bring up an issue they are having and discuss it. If ppl need to chill on dps, they should. If they have no issues, then by all means continue.
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    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    If you've done all of the new dungeons 7 or more times and 90% of your healers went OOM on trash (especially the one with the best mana generation) I feel like you're playing a different game.

    Please don't try to defend this point. There is just no way it's true. Could it have happened once or twice? Sure. Hundreds of times? No. The lie detector test said that was a lie.
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