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  1. #181
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    AlphaSonic's Avatar
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    Shaartis Laggal
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    Louisoix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    You missed out the AST having the aspected heals which are one of the main parts of his kit also do those potencies take into account the buff from the sects?
    He is talking about PvP.
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  2. #182
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    Rebecca Prairillot
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    At the end of heavens ward AST had a better shield than adlo but with a crit your shield was much better that seemed like a fine spot to have them in but now theres just no reason to want a sch for shields mdef isnt good enough when we get flat mitigation from pld and collective
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  3. #183
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    Crystal Skye
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by tikiwiki View Post
    At the end of heavens ward AST had a better shield than adlo but with a crit your shield was much better that seemed like a fine spot to have them in but now theres just no reason to want a sch for shields mdef isnt good enough when we get flat mitigation from pld and collective
    Adlo is just bad. Why would I ever use it other than phase transition -> DT or pre tankbuster? It absolutely DESTROYS manapools and it rarely is worth it. Even as an emergency tactics -> Adlo it just matches the heals others have on demand and it costs a truckton. It's now a joke.
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  4. #184
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    Rubiss Tantegel
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I am convinced that no one at Square parses or playtests any of their healer classes. The fact that people have jobs there after how they balance is baffling. Who actually approved this? I want names. These people should be fired.
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  5. #185
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    Rebecca Prairillot
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HyperSMB View Post
    Adlo is just bad. Why would I ever use it other than phase transition -> DT or pre tankbuster? It absolutely DESTROYS manapools and it rarely is worth it. Even as an emergency tactics -> Adlo it just matches the heals others have on demand and it costs a truckton. It's now a joke.
    thats why i was saying neither classes sheild needed to be changed from what they were pre sb both classes had them in a good place
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  7. #186
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    Kitsune Yokai
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Sch definitely got did the healing is not as strong even as a good sch and the pet has to heal her self we cant use sustain weaker heals weaker dps i understand trying to make sch more heal oriented but we are like not in dps and not in heal definitely not in a good spot even emergency tactics and deployment seem to have very lil to no benefit when i use them in a ex boss i c no difference in heals it needs a balance and why does my fairy keep getting hit by boss mechs did they nerf her speed movement to teh again i think its because she stops to heal herself since i cant cast sustain and dies
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  8. #187
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    I am convinced that no one at Square parses or playtests any of their healer classes. The fact that people have jobs there after how they balance is baffling. Who actually approved this? I want names. These people should be fired.
    I wouldn't say outright fired, but I do think the vast majority of people in charge of all the class balances need to be written up in some fashion. If a class isn't broken it's overtuned, if it's good in PVP it's generally shit in PVE, and in their quest to lower AOE damage across the board they've put some classes in very constricting spots that make certain sections of their leveling kit an outright pain to experience.
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  9. #188
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    Tinker Gearsmith
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    What are my thoughts as an ex-SCH?

    I quite literally can not put them down here, as I fear Square-Enix would most likely initiate a ban due to excessive coarse language.
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  10. #189
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    Prof Blarglebottoms
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Esja View Post
    When I'm DPSing:
    • I'm pressing nothing but Broil 80% of the time, which is mindnumbingly boring
    • I press two DoTs once every 20ish seconds
    • I have almost 0 AoE potential with the nerfing of Bane and Shadow Flare and can't even pretend to contribute with Blizzard II or Miasma II since they were removed.
    • I can stare at all the abilities I get from 60-70 all I want knowing that I'm stuck with this horrible rotation for the foreseeable future.

    When I'm healing:
    • My pet heals feel like Eos learned how to turn on old Cleric Stance.
    • My brand new Divine Seal buff doesn't help my pet or my instant heals.
    • My Adlos cost almost as much as a Succor and are outclassed by AST's instant cast, cheaper version
    I agree.

    I loved SCH because it was complicated and interesting. Now it's just broil spam. I didn't take this job to be a WHM.
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  11. #190
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    Rubiss Tantegel
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    I wouldn't say outright fired, but I do think the vast majority of people in charge of all the class balances need to be written up in some fashion. If a class isn't broken it's overtuned, if it's good in PVP it's generally shit in PVE, and in their quest to lower AOE damage across the board they've put some classes in very constricting spots that make certain sections of their leveling kit an outright pain to experience
    I would say fired. There is simply no way any sort of QA was done on this. Combined the state of SCH with MCH... I really don't trust the people behind the changes to do anything positive for class balance going forward. A lot of these issues are simply common sense. You can't teach that nor can you really learn that. If someone actually approved SCH, like actually played them and said, "Yeah, this comparable to the other healers. This is good." then this person is a liability. Unless everyone on the dev team is completely incompetent, someone goofed up really hard and they need to be moved to another department or let go.
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