The Ifrit Fight is Dangerous to the Community.

[SilvertearRen]

i guess it boils down to attention span. >.>
make sure you got a separate log for ifrits actions.
I personally have a window log that only shows ifrits actions and the log shows up a split second earlier than ifrits actual moves. So as a mage i can react faster to, say for example Vulcan or incinerate for the tank.

Some of our newer LS members are still learning the timing, and yeah it always comes down to timing. Dont /ac until ifrit does one of his skills....something easily said but easily forgotten.

No kidding. I told my friends to make sure they had their battle log filtered to show Ifrit's abilities. There was a significant improvement after that, with most of them managing to evade the Plume, but with the occasional Mage still getting whumped.

[Richard_BG]

No kidding. I told my friends to make sure they had their battle log filtered to show Ifrit's abilities. There was a significant improvement after that, with most of them managing to evade the Plume, but with the occasional Mage still getting whumped.

keeping an eye on ifrit's body as opposed to a chat log will give you more control over the fight and it's surroundings while also not taking away from your dps. You don't need a chatlog to tell you what he's about to do.

Ifrit drops down into linebacker stance = Eruption = MOVE OUT
Ifrit raises his right arm in the air = Plume = MOVE IN
Ifrit uses "WS red animation" = Incinerate or Burst = DONT DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT
Ifrit jumps = Cyclone = MOVE TO THE TANK
Ifrit glows red = the start of Sear = MAX AA RANGE

this isn't rocket surgery people

[TheVedis]

keeping an eye on ifrit's body as opposed to a chat log will give you more control over the fight and it's surroundings while also not taking away from your dps. You don't need a chatlog to tell you what he's about to do.

Ifrit drops down into linebacker stance = Eruption = MOVE OUT
Ifrit raises his right arm in the air = Plume = MOVE IN
Ifrit uses "WS red animation" = Incinerate or Burst = DONT DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT
Ifrit jumps = Cyclone = MOVE TO THE TANK
Ifrit glows red = the start of Sear = MAX AA RANGE

this isn't rocket surgery people

the problem with some people, is they dont want to do that
they want to sit there and fight and not have to move, because thats how they want to play
and because its how they want to play, its how it should be

[Richard_BG]

the problem with some people, is they dont want to do that
they want to sit there and fight and not have to move, because thats how they want to play
and because its how they want to play, its how it should be

and some people want to be NBA superstars but don't wanna take the time to learn how to dunk. that is the problem with self entitled gamers and a resounding problem in this community.

[SilvertearRen]

keeping an eye on ifrit's body as opposed to a chat log will give you more control over the fight and it's surroundings while also not taking away from your dps. You don't need a chatlog to tell you what he's about to do.

Ifrit drops down into linebacker stance = Eruption = MOVE OUT
Ifrit raises his right arm in the air = Plume = MOVE IN
Ifrit uses "WS red animation" = Incinerate or Burst = DONT DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT
Ifrit jumps = Cyclone = MOVE TO THE TANK
Ifrit glows red = the start of Sear = MAX AA RANGE

this isn't rocket surgery people

This is another chunk of data that will help with the fight. Thanks!

[Deceptistar]

keeping an eye on ifrit's body as opposed to a chat log will give you more control over the fight and it's surroundings while also not taking away from your dps. You don't need a chatlog to tell you what he's about to do.

Ifrit drops down into linebacker stance = Eruption = MOVE OUT
Ifrit raises his right arm in the air = Plume = MOVE IN
Ifrit uses "WS red animation" = Incinerate or Burst = DONT DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT
Ifrit jumps = Cyclone = MOVE TO THE TANK
Ifrit glows red = the start of Sear = MAX AA RANGE

this isn't rocket surgery people

you also gotta realize that for melee and mage, where u look for (signs) whether is actions or log may be diff. As a mage i react way faster with log than with actions cause my eyes are more centered on the tanks HP + ground, as opposed to watching ifrits body + ground unlike the melee.

[Richard_BG]

you also gotta realize that for melee and mage, where u look for (signs) whether is actions or log may be diff. As a mage i react way faster with log than with actions cause my eyes are more centered on the tanks HP + ground, as opposed to watching ifrits body + ground unlike the melee.

it was written for Ren, who is not doing this fight as a DoM but as a LNC. Everyone has their own style of play and if it works for you then it works for you. I try and make everything as efficient as possible i.e. instead of watching raid frames and the ground and being tunnel visioned I'll put HP Bars on everyone and make sure I have a view of the entire battlefield.

[Deceptistar]

it was written for Ren, who is not doing this fight as a DoM but as a LNC. Everyone has their own style of play and if it works for you then it works for you. I try and make everything as efficient as possible i.e. instead of watching raid frames and the ground and being tunnel visioned I'll put HP Bars on everyone and make sure I have a view of the entire battlefield.

i was speaking in general since Ren looked like he was gathering data not only for himself but for his/her group

[SilvertearRen]

i was speaking in general since Ren looked like he was gathering data not only for himself but for his/her group

Absolutely correct. The more data we accumulate to share with our party members, the better our chances.

[Preypacer]

keeping an eye on ifrit's body as opposed to a chat log will give you more control over the fight and it's surroundings while also not taking away from your dps. You don't need a chatlog to tell you what he's about to do.

Ifrit drops down into linebacker stance = Eruption = MOVE OUT
Ifrit raises his right arm in the air = Plume = MOVE IN
Ifrit uses "WS red animation" = Incinerate or Burst = DONT DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT
Ifrit jumps = Cyclone = MOVE TO THE TANK
Ifrit glows red = the start of Sear = MAX AA RANGE

this isn't rocket surgery people

Bingo.

Of course, despite the clarity of that advice... you will still get folks in the community giving any variation on the following statement:

"Well yeah, I could do all that, but that sounds like work, and this is a game and games are supposed to be fun. I don't play games to watch raid boss animations. I play to relax and unwind. Having to pay attention to what a raid boss is doing and then react is too stressful and not fun. It's unreasonable to expect players to do all that when all they want to do is have some fun in a video game. It would be much more reasonable, and fair to everybody, if SE just made the fight easier so more people could do it and not have to worry about all that. The gaming community is dominated by casual gamers and hardcore fights like that are for elitists, which are not what MMOs are about anymore. Elitists who want that need to go back to EQ and let people who aren't stuck in the past with archaic gameplay systems enjoy modern MMOs the way they're supposed to be. And I know that I'm right and speak for everybody because everybody obviously thinks the same way I do. If they don't think the way I do then they're elitists stuck in the early 2000s."

I'm pretty sure I covered every major argument for dumbing down content, on any forum, on any site, for any MMORPG in that paragraph... Someone let me know if I missed any...