Lupin - make it a playable race!

[Firesped]

I want to make a point on this. I don't know if anyone has brought this up yet. BUT at what point have the Lupin been identified as a beastman tribe? They have not at any point in game been said to be one. It is assumption that they are one and there is actual proof they are not one. If they were a beastman tribe. The Garlean empire would not have conscripted them.

As far as the Viera are concerned. we might see them in the 24 man raid.

This might be the solution that SE plans to add. female Viera and male Lupin as new the race in a later patch.

[Rysir]

I want to make a point on this. I don't know if anyone has brought this up yet. BUT at what point have the Lupin been identified as a beastman tribe? They have not at any point in game been said to be one. It is assumption that they are one and there is actual proof they are not one. If they were a beastman tribe. The Garlean empire would not have conscripted them.

As far as the Viera are concerned. we might see them in the 24 man raid.

This might be the solution that SE plans to add. female Viera and male Lupin as new the race in a later patch.

I noticed this a lot as I got farther in the story. The lupins are the least "beast tribey" beast tribe in the game and have a very long history of being integrated in Doman civilization and function exactly as any other person and share nothing with beast tribes we have been shown.

They are so ingrained into society I very strongly doubt there will be beast quests for them even. It lets one think.

[Pyrali]

Lupin were actually one of the original concepts for Au Ra, but they clearly did not make the final cut.

Source: The Art of Ishgard

What we got was the Demonic/Draconic concept.

[KazumaFaemura]

Lupin were actually one of the original concepts for Au Ra, but they clearly did not make the final cut.

Source: The Art of Ishgard

What we got was the Demonic/Draconic concept.

Who knows maybe they're planned to be playable sometime in the future, maybe even later in the expansion or the next

[floofuf]

No thanks. I think that they shouldn't have even been added as NPCs. It feels weird being in a world of humans and slightly-not-really-humans-with-tails to see a huge doggo just living in a town. I know some people like more beast-like races, but it just wouldn't be the same when we've all used human-like races since the start of the game. I would like to see mi'qote and au ra revisited or something, to make them less human-y. Maybe mi'qote could get more fur options and au ra more scales, little less human. But I honestly don't see this race happening, but that's probably just me.

[KazumaFaemura]

No thanks. I think that they shouldn't have even been added as NPCs. It feels weird being in a world of humans and slightly-not-really-humans-with-tails to see a huge doggo just living in a town. I know some people like more beast-like races, but it just wouldn't be the same when we've all used human-like races since the start of the game. I would like to see mi'qote and au ra revisited or something, to make them less human-y. Maybe mi'qote could get more fur options and au ra more scales, little less human. But I honestly don't see this race happening, but that's probably just me.

Meh it doesn't feel so out of place for me as a fan of Final Fantasy in general, I mean we already have the beast tribes that interact with various races so if take that into account it's not that much different.

[MisterLucie]

This might be the solution that SE plans to add. female Viera and male Lupin as new the race in a later patch.

No no no no no. Please SE no. No more of that single gender playable race nonsense. I don't want to be a lupin, I want to be a male viera.

[floofuf]

Final Fantasy in general? Not out of place. FFXIV? Out of place. Everywhere you look in a town like Limsa Lominsa you see humans, big humans, small pointy-eared humans, big pointy-eared humans, cat-eared humans, and humans with horns. Emphasis on humans. Lupin are not human like. They are literally a beast, but more civilized. They're like the civilized beast tribes we encounter. And we don't play as those. In my opinion, they aren't very pleasant to look at because of that. They're already out of place living with humans, but oh well. Too late to change that now.

[KazumaFaemura]

Final Fantasy in general? Not out of place. FFXIV? Out of place. Everywhere you look in a town like Limsa Lominsa you see humans, big humans, small pointy-eared humans, big pointy-eared humans, cat-eared humans, and humans with horns. Emphasis on humans. Lupin are not human like. They are literally a beast, but more civilized. They're like the civilized beast tribes we encounter. And we don't play as those. In my opinion, they aren't very pleasant to look at because of that. They're already out of place living with humans, but oh well. Too late to change that now.

Yet there is Quqirn shop keep there and a Marmal jool there interacting with a shop keep as well in Limsa

[DreadRabbit]

Wanted to add a point I rarely ever see in these sorts of threads.

Miqo'te aren't just popular because "furry waifu!": they're popular because they're one of the few races that actually look "good" (in quotes 'cause beauty's subjective) no matter what face you pick. They're one of the few races that you can't tell right away what face was used by looking at a character. Each of the four faces for both genders of Miqo'te were designed well and offer enough changes with their smaller details that if you like playing as a cat person, you can almost never go wrong designing one. Add this to the fact that their ears and tails will match whatever hair color you pick, and you can have a pretty unique looking Miqo'te.

The only other race that has that much flexibility in terms of "choice of good looking faces" seem to be the Au Ra and the Hyur, but the Au Ra have the unfortunate characteristic that you can't pick which horns you have since they're attached to the face. And you can't change the color of their scales/horns (I know it wouldn't fit the lore, but I feel like we if can put face paint on that covers our face scales you could have Au Ri warriors that painted their scales too. Or even treat them like tattoos) or change the patterns of the scales on your body. Au Ra are my favorite but you can tell instantly which customization features people used, which may lend to them not being as popular (which surprised me! I feel like I see Au Ra everywhere, so those charts earlier in the thread are kind of shocking).

Highlander Hyur and Roes just weren't given nearly as many options face wise that "look good" to a lot of people. Like...why in the world do all of the highlander lady faces have those deep shadows on their eyes except for one face? And why have all the different eye shape "options" if I can't pick one to get rid of those? Or add the deep shadows to the face that doesn't have them? That's just one example. And Roe ladies are gorgeous, but more often than not they're all using the same face option.

This is why I'm in the camp that while I'm all for more races, I want more customization to come to what exists already. Because if it doesn't, that's only going to hurt the viability of whatever race comes next. The Miqo'te and Hyur don't necessarily have more options than everyone else, but all of their options are flexible and and have a big impact on your character's design. The other races (especially the Highlanders and the Roes) need this kind of love desperately.