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  1. #241
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    Quote Originally Posted by floofuf View Post
    Final Fantasy in general? Not out of place. FFXIV? Out of place. Everywhere you look in a town like Limsa Lominsa you see humans, big humans, small pointy-eared humans, big pointy-eared humans, cat-eared humans, and humans with horns. Emphasis on humans. Lupin are not human like. They are literally a beast, but more civilized. They're like the civilized beast tribes we encounter. And we don't play as those. In my opinion, they aren't very pleasant to look at because of that. They're already out of place living with humans, but oh well. Too late to change that now.
    Overthinking it.

    We've had Goblins, Kobolds, Sylph's, and Moogles all be a part of MSQ as friendlies. Especially the post-moogle. Idyllshire has goblins everywhere. A similar thing exists with the Kojin.

    The only reason why X is not a playable race, despite there being models in the game for, is that they don't have customization. All the beast tribes clearly have some variation on "caster, healer, lancer, ranger" but you'll notice the only thing that makes them that is their weapon. They have no other gear.

    Final Fantasy in general, I'd say that it's not out of place to have playable characters that aren't fully human (see FFIX) but it would be out of place to have races that aren't "human enough"

    In the context of FFXIV, I think they likely initially wanted something more like what the Lupin are, before the Au Ra became final, but decided that "yet another miqo'te" wouldn't be different enough, and the customization would be too complicated.

    Like, there's exactly two models for the Lupin seen thus far, the villager, and the imperial. They have their own "random enemy NPC" just like the bandit/pirate camps in every area. The playable-races all have variety (though the majority of NPC Roe are green.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Overthinking it.
    Overthinking it? Heh. Yes they're in towns, but the players don't play as them, and they make up the majority of towns (unless you're in the buttcrack of Nowhereville). All those beast tribes are little, you don't see a mountain of a beast. It makes no sense that Lupin would even be a beast tribe. They're just NPCs to give the game some lore and interesting characters.

    Quite frankly I don't even understand why Au Ra were added. It makes no sense because you don't see any at all in ARR, and very little in HW. If they add Lupin, they'll also suffer the same fate of not making sense lore-wise. I think they won't fit in at all with the playable races we have now.

    To the people that say that we should get more humanized Lupin, that's never going to happen. It wouldn't fit in with how the current Lupin look, and would probably be just a let down. I don't see this race, or even Viera, ever getting added. If a race does get added, it's probably be Viera. They're more pleasant-looking anyways.
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  3. #243
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    Quote Originally Posted by floofuf View Post
    Snipping for character.
    Me personally I dislike Viera, never cared for them in FFTA or FFXII. Really if they wanted to fit a new race in all we'd really need an something similar to the ARR opening with our new race in a carrage going to Eorzea and it'd feel organic. They'd be travelling and caught up in the events same as our current characters were.
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  4. #244
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Like, there's exactly two models for the Lupin seen thus far, the villager, and the imperial. They have their own "random enemy NPC" just like the bandit/pirate camps in every area. The playable-races all have variety (though the majority of NPC Roe are green.)
    another point to you is, the animation skeleton of the Lupin is shared with the male miqo'te thus there clawed stance, but using the au ra as an example with yugiri when we first met her her horns were coverd, and her tail was hidden. as features became more decided upon they edited the live model to reflect that, by making her horns non bendy (which people thought were rabbit ears) adding a tail that became longer, and so on.

    this could be the same in the lupins shoes, while the model we have now is only one thing we are talking a playable race 2 years from now, and over time the lupin could change into a more fitting race of people. only time can tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DracotheDragon View Post
    another point to you is, the animation skeleton of the Lupin is shared with the male miqo'te thus there clawed stance, but using the au ra as an example with yugiri when we first met her her horns were coverd, and her tail was hidden. as features became more decided upon they edited the live model to reflect that, by making her horns non bendy (which people thought were rabbit ears) adding a tail that became longer, and so on.

    this could be the same in the lupins shoes, while the model we have now is only one thing we are talking a playable race 2 years from now, and over time the lupin could change into a more fitting race of people. only time can tell.
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    We really need a new race of some sort. Lupin or not just feels boring with all the "human" looking races.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    No I'd like to seem them too, although they would probably be best as a beast tribe
    They dont really have the same style as beast men aside from appearance, and are (in terms of IX) are proficient Dragoons with comparable cities, architecture and society. This isn't very beast men like as they seem to be more tribal whereas burmecians are a society, just my take on them at least. I feel like they would work as a playable but I wouldn't mind seeing them as a beast tribe either. Just want more Burmecians in general xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by floofuf View Post
    Final Fantasy in general? Not out of place. FFXIV? Out of place. Everywhere you look in a town like Limsa Lominsa you see humans, big humans, small pointy-eared humans, big pointy-eared humans, cat-eared humans, and humans with horns. Emphasis on humans. Lupin are not human like. They are literally a beast, but more civilized. They're like the civilized beast tribes we encounter. And we don't play as those. In my opinion, they aren't very pleasant to look at because of that. They're already out of place living with humans, but oh well. Too late to change that now.
    Limsa Lominsa is the only major city to actually have Beastmen hanging out with the human peoples. Mamool Ja in the Arcanist guild, Qiqirn merchant in market place and the goblin in the Aetheryte plaza. While not a lot, Limsa Lominsa is probably the last place to use for an argument about "out of place" races :P
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    I think they should go for another "small" race next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    I think they should go for another "small" race next.
    Go for it with what? Napalm? Poison gas?
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