A PSA to all upset tank players

[SargentToughie]

Hello, forum readers!

So there's been a lot of grief going on about the current state of the tanking roles, with PLD being abundantly better than the other two jobs, as well as many people (myself included) believing that the overall "fun factor" of tanking in Stormblood has taken a drastic hit.

I'm not going to sit here and lay out the reasons why I feel this way, you've probably read them a thousand times before across all the other threads on the subject. To capstone for the sake of the thread, there's a lot of tank players who are upset about the way tanking was designed in Stormblood, with it being substantially less engaging than it was in the past.

If you're just going to ignore my statements in the previous threads and state "tanks should only focus on tanking" or whatever, cool, whatever. I'm not here to argue with you. Instead, I just have one thing I'd like to say, to all the fellow tanks out there who, like me, don't like the direction taken.

Vote with your playtime.

If you're disgruntled about the tank changes, the best possible course of action you can do is stop playing a job that you no longer find fun, and spend your time playing the game doing something that you enjoy doing. The developers have statistics, they can see how many people are playing what. If enough people share your opinions, and the already minuscule tanking population continues to dwindle, we will see change, fast.

I know that for my part, the only reason I'm leveling WAR right now is for the sake of my friend circle, you won't catch me dead queuing for anything Duty Finder related on anything but a DPS role. It's simply more engaging, as I've argued several times in the past.

I just hope that there's enough "True Tanks" in the game to stop us DPS players from having hour long DF queues, even after things 'balance out' in a few weeks like people are saying they will.

[Areic]

Dunno, I dont notice any difference with tanking and it's still gobs of fun.

Ain't gonna stop playing that shit just cause we took a hit to dps, that was just a bonus we had.

[LittleChickenNugget]

Dunno, I dont notice any difference with tanking and it's still gobs of fun.

Ain't gonna stop playing that shit just cause we took a hit to dps, that was just a bonus we had.

Exactly. That'd be like refusing to heal because we can't DPS as hard. We can still DPS, just not as hard.
People will find any reason to protest anything.

[Azurein]

I stopped playing War and started leveling Pally. I still love War to bits but I don't like the way it plays at all. Aggro gen sucks, there's no sustain to help with our squishiness, instead we're thrown mitigation CDs and it just left me asking "Why am I playing Warrior if they're no longer a lifesteal tank but another mitigation tank?" Pally is the better mitigation tank by far and from what I've been hearing has just as good damage as War. So why play War atm?

[YitharV2]

Exactly. That'd be like refusing to heal because we can't DPS as hard. We can still DPS, just not as hard.
People will find any reason to protest anything.

That's not what I'm really upset about with WAR. I mean, sure, the stance dance penalty is annoying. But I'm upset with the gameplay changes. It doesn't feel fun anymore. I'm sure a lot of DRKs feel the same way since their rotation is like 2.0 PLD now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...riors/dig5gc7/

[Yurihyuga]

true tanks are gonna carry on tanking, right now i levelled war to 70 nearly full 310 and i hate it while im levelling pld and finding it more enjoyable the tank formula needs work since they took our dmg from vit now we need more enmity generation which as a war sucks cause they took our flash so I am always needing tp and its stressful luckily i roulette with friends so they always goad me. If they tweak enmity generation when in tank stance it probably won't be nearly as bad as for war it does need changes because we are now the tank that people will take if they can't find anything else our main point was slashing debuff and high dps now were just average like the other tanks and our utility isn't exactly exclusive anymore and we don't have dmg down anymore with path.

At any rate will prob drop war completely for pld and then level a dps, tank for friends and dps anything else until they fix something.

[Areic]

I stopped playing War and started leveling Pally. I still love War to bits but I don't like the way it plays at all. Aggro gen sucks, there's no sustain to help with our squishiness, instead we're thrown mitigation CDs and it just left me asking "Why am I playing Warrior if they're no longer a lifesteal tank but another mitigation tank?" Pally is the better mitigation tank by far and from what I've been hearing has just as good damage as War. So why play War atm?

Still pretty lifesteal-y to me, I sustain out the butt spamming path and IB, it's not a bad idea to go nuts on path once you got aggro since eye isn't wise to do more than once every 2-3 rotations anymore. Plus it builds the most beast gauge to IB even more. At 70 I frequently heal for 2-2.5k on path alone. About 4-5k on IB. And we have our big heal to use when needed

[ErikMynhier]

I measure my tank-peepee by how much damage I soak up, not by my dps numbers. I've had no issues at all save for the very first dungeon run. Once I had that figured that and broke the habit of ignoring RoH except when the STR-Down fell off, it all got better.

[SargentToughie]

Unfortunately there are far more tanks who are still going to be tanks at the end of the day than there are little baby warriors who are quitting.

I suppose time will tell, won't it? The worst that can happen is that I spend my time actually having fun with Monk/Samurai

You got me good there.

[Yurihyuga]

Still pretty lifesteal-y to me, I sustain out the butt spamming path and IB, it's not a bad idea to go nuts on path once you got aggro since eye isn't wise to do more than once every 2-3 rotations anymore. Plus it builds the most beast gauge to IB even more. At 70 I frequently heal for 2-2.5k on path alone. About 4-5k on IB. And we have our big heal to use when needed

However surely you have noticed how much more enmity spam you have to do to make sure you hold agro, while yes i agree you should path when eye is up as it gives more gauge but I can't depend on a 3 part combo to give me back hp while it would be better to mitigate with rampart or vengeance and do a triple unchained+berserk cyclone rather than use IB for trash. Most people find war boring for its playstyle now and either switching to other tanks or dps can do some really interesting things with war though if they didn't halve gauge on stance dancing but it is how it is.