The boring mage of red

[Xehmnus]

I'm talking about travel time. Takes about 1 sec to pull yourself towards the enemy and another second to jump away. Almost a full 2.5 GCD.

I'm pretty sure it's more optimal to not use those abilities and just stay in melee range the entire fight. You get bonus auto attack damage and you won't waste time jumping towards/away the enemy repeatedly.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but don't auto attacks cancel the dual cast proc? I believe that's what I've heard anyway. In such a case, staying in melee range would hurt a lot more than worrying about dashing in/out which... shouldn't be really tampering with your damage anyway since they're simple enough to weave in.

[WaywardPilgrim]

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but don't auto attacks cancel the dual cast proc? I believe that's what I've heard anyway. In such a case, staying in melee range would hurt a lot more than worrying about dashing in/out which... shouldn't be really tampering with your damage anyway since they're simple enough to weave in.

I believe the auto attack canceling it is a mis-translation. That said, I don't think RDM auto attacks add anything meaningful to their DPS as they scale off of strength (I'm surprised they didn't go with Dex) and hit like a wet paper towel.

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

lol this thread. It's fine, if you don't like red mage just play another job you actually like.

The job is totally fine. It's super fun, feels fluid and smooth and I'm in love. This coming from a main RDM in FFXI. SE did a really great job.

Once again, the job is perfectly fine. Don't try to "fix" it if it isn't broken.

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

lol this thread. It's fine, if you don't like red mage just play another job you actually like.

The job is totally fine. It's super fun, feels fluid and smooth and I'm in love. This coming from a main RDM in FFXI. SE did a really great job.

Once again, the job is perfectly fine. Don't try to "fix" it if it isn't broken.

I don't know how to edit posts on phone. I just wanted to clarify that I am ok with adding some stuff like someone mentioned something akin to Enspells to spice it up as long as it doesn't change the current job design dramatically. Anything to spice it up a little I'd be curious to see but the job as it is right now is great and I love it.

[Remnance]

I believe the auto attack canceling it is a mis-translation. That said, I don't think RDM auto attacks add anything meaningful to their DPS as they scale off of strength (I'm surprised they didn't go with Dex) and hit like a wet paper towel.

Yes, an auto attack will remove your dual cast proc. It is an actual game mechanic.

[Rawrz]

Yes, an auto attack will remove your dual cast proc. It is an actual game mechanic.

Except in game, it does not cancel it. Using a weapon skill or sprint are what normally cancels it.

[Psycofang]

Auto attacks can cancel dual cast. Go to a striking dummy cast jolt the auto attack. Youll lose dual cast immediately.

But you can stay in melee range as a rdm and never lose your DC is you use it immediately and dont wait. I tested both and you can successfully auto attack while doing your rotation.

[SkyCake]

Auto attacks can cancel dual cast. Go to a striking dummy cast jolt the auto attack. Youll lose dual cast immediately.

But you can stay in melee range as a rdm and never lose your DC is you use it immediately and dont wait. I tested both and you can successfully auto attack while doing your rotation.

Do you mind making a video to show that? Here's my video showing Dualcast not being canceled with Auto Attacks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFDcm8yoDfo

Not that I don't believe. It would be interesting if we had different results.

Edit: Just to reiterate since these forums can get a bit feisty. Not saying you're wrong! If anything, it's more likely I'm misunderstanding you. Or, there's certain instances that are making auto attacks cancel Dualcast. I know the English tool tip says auto attacks and abilities should cancel it. But, others have stated its one of many errors in translation and should actually read "anything other than AA and abilities." That would be in line with how it tends to work, too.

[Psycofang]

Ill post once i get off work

In another 5 hours qq

[SkyCake]

Ill post once i get off work

In another 5 hours qq

Thank you, Psycofang. I suspect that Dualcast may be behaving differently in certain situations (such as attacking a striking dummy). This would be good information to know.