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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmy_Dee View Post
    If you can't just ignore a thread for interpreting something differently how do you manage to get through your day to day.
    I am having a very bored day, so this thread is entertainment for me to post in.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    Probably because Alisaie doesn't want to have her "soft" side of her shown out like that. SHE IS A TSUNDERE!
    Don't you dare embarrass her! Anyway, I dunno if you noticed but Lyse is almost ALWAYS ready to beat heads in...
    As she said in the story herself. Her emotions are causing her to do things that otherwise jeopardize any plans.
    So Alisaie did the smart thing to do, have Lyse do something simple and out the way for a while.

    If anything, I can see them two as 'Sisters' and that's all.
    She wouldn't be embarrassed and derail over "I worried Lyse wouldn't be able to hold herself back so asked her to stay behind."
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  3. #103
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    Kylrin Arresard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmy_Dee View Post
    Y'all are the only ones reducing everything I said to the hug. I pointed out the hug was out of typical character, pointed to a line almost immediately after with some queer implications for Alisaie, and then pointed to an example of Alisaie not just wanting to protect Lyse but feeling embarrassed by that being noticed. A reasonable excuse would have been easy to give so why would she be embarrassed if she wasn't doing it for personal reasons? Y'all can't read into the subtext of a scene, reduce arguments you disagree with to a single point, and claim a single happy post is making a big deal. Learn some chill.
    I can well read subtext in a scene and I've made many, many predictions on the storyline of this game that have proven valid. You are pushing hard to create a subtext that is only the subtext you want that validates your personal feelings on the scene. Honestly, I don't think anyone here is really saying, "You shouldn't want it to be that." More to the point is your coming out and saying, "This is so obviously what happened according to my feelings so therefore that must be the truth of it for everyone." You have no evidence of this relationship anywhere else, and you even go on to say that all the other women and Alphinaud and Estinian are going together that you just elevate your statements to absurd levels and proclaim it as Canon truth.

    "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." You do not present any evidence aside from your interpretation of the scene and the relationship and preach it as the only possible truth. This is not a good argument and people are calling you out on that.
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    Last edited by Malzian; 06-24-2017 at 04:41 AM. Reason: Autocorrect.
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  4. #104
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    Hayley Westenra
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    You are reading too much into things.
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  5. #105
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    Abriael Rosen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmy_Dee View Post
    Y'all are the only ones reducing everything I said to the hug. I pointed out the hug was out of typical character, pointed to a line almost immediately after with some queer implications for Alisaie, and then pointed to an example of Alisaie not just wanting to protect Lyse but feeling embarrassed by that being noticed. A reasonable excuse would have been easy to give so why would she be embarrassed if she wasn't doing it for personal reasons? Y'all can't read into the subtext of a scene, reduce arguments you disagree with to a single point, and claim a single happy post is making a big deal. Learn some chill.
    A "couple" involves two people. While Alisaie's orientation and attitude may, as a very big stretch, be open to a degree of interpretation, there is absolutely *zero* of the sort from Lyse. The hug was evidently friendly. The only character Lyse shows a possible romantic interest for is the warrior of light.

    Instead of telling people to "learn some chill" you may want to learn that not everyone is required to enjoy the shoehorning of your silly and simplistic theories on characters who show absolutely no sign of supporting them.

    PS: being embarrassed by a public hug is absolutely no indication of "queer." It's an indication of shyness towards physical and public manifestation of affection, which is definitely in line with Alisaie's character.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 06-24-2017 at 04:42 AM.

  6. #106
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    Still waiting for SE to let me marry Thancred.
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claymore65 View Post
    Honestly, it's the misleading title that is bothering people. You claim they are a lesbian couple, despite a fair bit of evidence they aren't (especially including the age difference), and that bothered some people. A title like "Possible lesbian couple in MSQ?" would draw a lot less ire.
    I can't help but wonder if the "ire" would have been a lot less vehement if this had been speculation on a straight couple. Too many people get up in arms about folk "shoving they gay agenda down our throat".
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    I can't help but wonder if the "ire" would have been a lot less vehement if this had been speculation on a straight couple. Too many people get up in arms about folk "shoving they gay agenda down our throat".
    The ire would be the same thing because the issue has nothing to do with them being gay or straight, the issue is because their statement about their romantic inclinations are false just because the two characters hugged. People can't even f-ing hug anymore without people jumping to conclusions, it's stupid.
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  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    I can't help but wonder if the "ire" would have been a lot less vehement if this had been speculation on a straight couple. Too many people get up in arms about folk "shoving they gay agenda down our throat".
    Maybe you should worry about the falsehood instead, before you start thinking about agendas.
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    I can't help but wonder if the "ire" would have been a lot less vehement if this had been speculation on a straight couple. Too many people get up in arms about folk "shoving they gay agenda down our throat".
    At least three of us who are mentioned dissatisfaction with this drastic stretch of the imagination to being some sort of homosexual reference to an innocent relationship of a CHILD and an adult are actually homosexual out selves.

    The issue isn't only just the homosexual part, but more so the forced ideas of a relationship between two close friends who have been through LITERALLY THE END OF THE WORLD and killing a giant freakn Dragon together.
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