thanks for making a lesbian couple part of the msq *SPOILERS*

[Abriael]

I'm not making a big deal out of anything. I made a happy pleasant post and then everyone else spent the rest of the thread arguing with me about it.

Maybe because you called a simple friendship with one hug a "lesbian couple." And that is simply false. People tend not to enjoy false, or to find it happy or pleasant. There is absolutely no romantic or sexual tension between Lyse and Alisaie, anywhere in the MSQ or anywhere else.

On the other hand, there are a LOT of interactions that can be easily interpreted as romantic tension between Lyse and the Warrior of Light in the second part of the expansion, regardless of the latter's gender.

[Mikhaill]

I'll ship it!
People need to lighten up.

Yeah, I don't think most of us fancy the idea of a 16 year old and someone who's around 25.

I'm not making a big deal out of anything. I made a happy pleasant post and then everyone else spent the rest of the thread arguing with me about it.

Welp, I knew you were from Balmung for one. I think people are either tired of the fact, every single, tiny little detail that is placed
people scream "THEY'RE GAY!" So, with your logic, everyone here who has hugged someone of their same gender is gay.
Say if I hugged a friend, who I knew would be in grave danger, returns with some wounds, I would hug them too, yet gently lol.

There was a male couple in this game IIRC, and the guys said it was his loved one, and that made me happy to see.
However, your 'proof' is something that can and could happen everyday with just friends. Doesn't mean they are gay.
You probably actually insulted a few folks.

What with Alphinaud already dating the Azure Dragoon, it was about time for Alisaie to get a girlfriend.!

What in tarnation?

[Verius_Nox]

You're the one acting like being gay is entirely a sexual thing. I never even suggested sex.

You're the one acting like hugging is entirely a sexual orientated thing, because you imply that they're a romantic couple because they hugged.

[LineageRazor]

I'm not making a big deal out of anything. I made a happy pleasant post and then everyone else spent the rest of the thread arguing with me about it.

If you're wondering why folks are so exasperated, it's because you're trying to pass your own personal ship off as the real deal. It's even possible that you honestly don't even recognize that it's just your own personal preferred pairing, and not canonical at all.

Basically, it's a case of your Shipping Goggles being on a little too tight. Frankly, dig deep enough into the dialog and contexts and you can find reasons to pair up pretty darned near any two characters in the game - and many of them with more "proof" than you've provided for Yda and Allisae.

Fandoms THRIVE on this kind of thing, and creators are more than happy to throw in little tidbits to support just about any possible pairing, because they know that fans eat that kind of stuff up. Rarely, however, do they actually provide any kind of closure on a ship - and they certainly haven't done so here. After this heartfelt hug, do the two start going on romantic dates, or walk around holding hands, or anything else that you might expect a couple who has finally admitted their love to do? No, they do not. Their dialog is indistinguishable from that you'd find between any pair of close friends, because that's what they are: close friends.

In fandom circles, anytime someone stands up and says, "My preferred pairing is the real deal and here's the reasons why!" they will always be shot down, just as is happening here. A lesbian relationship is far from the only, or even most obvious thing to infer from this scene.

[Niqote]

If hugging another woman is gay... then my husband is going to be MOST surprised.

Seriously though. Your Head cannon is your business, but don't present it as a fact because that is foolish.

[Kimmy_Dee]

Y'all are the only ones reducing everything I said to the hug. I pointed out the hug was out of typical character, pointed to a line almost immediately after with some queer implications for Alisaie, and then pointed to an example of Alisaie not just wanting to protect Lyse but feeling embarrassed by that being noticed. A reasonable excuse would have been easy to give so why would she be embarrassed if she wasn't doing it for personal reasons? Y'all can't read into the subtext of a scene, reduce arguments you disagree with to a single point, and claim a single happy post is making a big deal. Learn some chill.

[Malzian]

A lesbian relationship is far from the only, or even most obvious thing to infer from this scene.

Quite so... Occam's razor in effect. "Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected." Sain Saying that they're friends is not an assumption, we know they are. Saying it's more than that is an assumption since there is no direct evidence.

[Kimmy_Dee]

If you can't just ignore a thread for interpreting something differently how do you manage to get through your day to day.

[Mikhaill]

Y'all are the only ones reducing everything I said to the hug. I pointed out the hug was out of typical character, pointed to a line almost immediately after with some queer implications for Alisaie, and then pointed to an example of Alisaie not just wanting to protect Lyse but feeling embarrassed by that being noticed. A reasonable excuse would have been easy to give so why would she be embarrassed if she wasn't doing it for personal reasons? Y'all can't read into the subtext of a scene, reduce arguments you disagree with to a single point, and claim a single happy post is making a big deal. Learn some chill.

Probably because Alisaie doesn't want to have her "soft" side of her shown out like that. SHE IS A TSUNDERE!
Don't you dare embarrass her! Anyway, I dunno if you noticed but Lyse is almost ALWAYS ready to beat heads in...
As she said in the story herself. Her emotions are causing her to do things that otherwise jeopardize any plans.
So Alisaie did the smart thing to do, have Lyse do something simple and out the way for a while.

If anything, I can see them two as 'Sisters' and that's all.

[Claymore65]

If you can't just ignore a thread for interpreting something differently how do you manage to get through your day to day.

Honestly, it's the misleading title that is bothering people. You claim they are a lesbian couple, despite a fair bit of evidence they aren't (especially including the age difference), and that bothered some people. A title like "Possible lesbian couple in MSQ?" would draw a lot less ire.

There have been unambiguous cases of Gay characters in the game (such as the gay couple quest givers for Wanderer's Palace Hard mode), so most people entering the thread probably thought there was something closer to that.