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    Lildragora's Avatar
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    Lillian Mandragora
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    I really wish they would just classify things into one or two of three groups. Terrestrial, Aquatic and Flying. My bomb carriage can swim but my elbest cant. This really irritates me on a deep level and feels awkward especially when riding a flying Syldra. I agree with an above comment "lazy"
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lildragora View Post
    I really wish they would just classify things into one or two of three groups. Terrestrial, Aquatic and Flying. My bomb carriage can swim but my elbest can't. This really irritates me on a deep level and feels awkward especially when riding a flying Syldra. I agree with an above comment "lazy"
    This is exactly how I would do it, and to make things fair here's my design for the mount system:

    Terrestrial: Moves fast on land, cannot swim/fly
    Flying: Moves slow on land, can fly
    Aquatic: Moves slow on land, can swim

    The movement system introduced in Stormblood would also be updated, with movement upgrades affecting flying and aquatic mounts when moving in the air/water respectively.

    The devs have designed themselves into a hole where flying mounts are objectively better, so every mount has to have both flying and swimming. They said "you can't have a tiger mount because it can't fly" previously, but at some point, they smoked something strong and their design process changed to "sure, a tiger can fly"



    Edit: Also, for my sanity: Aquatic mounts should be able to be mounted when on the surface of the water.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 06-24-2017 at 01:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    This is exactly how I would do it, and to make things fair here's my design for the mount system:

    Terrestrial: Moves fast on land, cannot swim/fly
    Flying: Moves slow on land, can fly
    Aquatic: Moves slow on land, can swim

    The movement system introduced in Stormblood would also be updated, with movement upgrades affecting flying and aquatic mounts when moving in the air/water respectively.

    The devs have designed themselves into a hole where flying mounts are objectively better, so every mount has to have both flying and swimming. They said "you can't have a tiger mount because it can't fly" previously, but at some point, they smoked something strong and their design process changed to "sure, a tiger can fly"
    That design is certainly logical and consistent, but does it improve gameplay? Does anyone want to have to change mounts every time they dive into water, or land? One of the things I love about the increased mount speed is that in HW it was faster to land your flying mount on top of your destination than touch down and travel over land for a single second. Now, with upgraded speed, you can land a ways away and it makes no difference. I don't consider mount micromanagement to be a great enhancement to the game. And nothing is stopping you from switching out your mounts based on context if it bothers you.

    Edit: Also, for my sanity: Aquatic mounts should be able to be mounted when on the surface of the water.
    They can! Kinda! But only after you've unlocked flying. Because... reasons? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talraen View Post
    That design is certainly logical and consistent, but does it improve gameplay? Does anyone want to have to change mounts every time they dive into water, or land?
    And i say screw mounts, i want to fly with my bare hands. because it is too much to press a button. *sarcasm off*

    Sorry but people like you are cancer to immersion and this genre. cancer.


    jesus christ.
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 06-24-2017 at 02:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    And i say screw mounts, i want to fly with my bare hands. because it is too much to press a button. *sarcasm off*

    Sorry but people like you are cancer to immersion and this genre. cancer.

    jesus christ.
    lol what? That's a bit extreme. You might want to tone that down a tad.

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    Last edited by Talraen; 06-24-2017 at 02:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    And i say screw mounts, i want to fly with my bare hands. because it is too much to press a button.
    Still waiting for that.

    HW 3.2 spoilers:

    https://youtu.be/7wu8j5_pzzU?t=256
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