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    Aya Hamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Healer dps feels about where it should be relatively.
    How do you figure? it is 4 physical levels difference, 292 attack (17% of my magic attack value) D11 more on weapon, and yet I do a significant more then all that, that is too big of a gap.

    Have you even tried 61+ solo content as a healer like the MSQ? it is way to slow. In group settings it feels like my damage does not even exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Vhailor View Post
    I'm not sure this is all that unusual. I recall the upper 50s were about where a well-played DD could begin to overtake my WHM in Heavensward (assuming I wasn't using massively scaled iLevels; base-ish 60 gear). You're only looking at a difference of 20 iLevels... DD classes should be able to out-perform Healer / Tank roles when they're that close (just as tanks should be able to absorb significantly more damage at level 66 than a DD can at level 70, assuming only 20 iLevel differences).
    They changed how healer damage is dealt, with the old cleric stance this would not be happening.

    It is not "close" at all when you are talking i290 left vs 270, that is a huge gap. Having 17% more magic attack is not small or close.
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    Last edited by Hamada; 06-22-2017 at 09:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    How do you figure?
    Well, let's entertain your apparent complaint for a moment. Should a healer and a dps have similar scaling on their damage spells, why then would dps even exist? Should a healer within around 20 ilvls of a dps be able to compete on equal terms, it would be best to simply cut the dps from the team completely. It's called balancing. You should not have anywhere near comparable to a dps in damage unless you are leagues above him. Clearly the devs seem to have acknowledged that healer dps is a problem in the first place, considering some of the more recent interviews, particularly with the changes made in Storm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Well, let's entertain your apparent complaint for a moment. Should a healer and a dps have similar scaling on their damage spells, why then would dps even exist? Should a healer within around 20 ilvls of a dps be able to compete on equal terms, it would be best to simply cut the dps from the team completely. It's called balancing. You should not have anywhere near comparable to adps in damage unless you are leagues above him. Clearly the devs seem to have acknowledged that healer dps is a problem in the first place, considering some of the more recent interviews, particularly with the changes made in Storm.
    It WAS for 4 YEARS! now the DPS is too low for solo content. This post completely misses the point. It has nothing to do with "comparable" and more with non-existent. Healer DPS is too low for soloing, something the game makes you do. Why is the solo MSQ quest and other things specifically only tailored to DPS? this makes it harder to complete them as a healer doing that. Then when a DPS themselves is too low, why do I have to sit in a 40 min DF because my damage is nonexistent?
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