So why play anything other then paladin?

[Koos]

The amount of doom and gloom here is kind of sad. I have been playing Dark Knight at 70 and have been having no issues whatsoever when it comes to the Expert dungeons as well as the Primal Extreme fights. Maybe they aren't as great on paper in comparison to Paladin, but it's not like you can't play the game if you actually understand what your abilities do... There is no way that the development team is ignorant to what people are complaining about. Give your constructive feedback and continue to PLAY the game. All large games have a ton of telemetry for gathering metrics on these kinds of things.

[Ciderfox]

What's it like being wrong?

Most of the susano ex parses are showing the tanks dps to be pretty similar. xenosys vex was consistently out dpsing the PLD in his group when I was watching his stream last night, he was even keeping up with the 3rd and 4th dps. That 20% more dps for PLD spreadsheet is not really panning out.

[Faytte]

Paladins are in a good spot atm. WAR and DRK took a hit but they were also leagues ahead. Your mind mind tell you they swapped but the truth is that they are all pretty similar. WAR still provides group buffs, has fantastic self burst healing and other great mechanics. DRK can throw damage shields around like crazy as an MT or OT. And while Paladin ST dps might be better than than DRKS (unproven) they are never gonna touch eithers aoe dps even with their new aoe move. Paladins just go reestablished as main tanks and are not crap as OT's, while Warrior is still amazing at OT and serviceable MT and DRK can do fine in both roles.

[MomoOG]

On a macro level all tanks are fine. On a fine tuning level just leave your feedback and stop being over dramatic.

[Synestra]

Most of the susano ex parses are showing the tanks dps to be pretty similar. xenosys vex was consistently out dpsing the PLD in his group when I was watching his stream last night, he was even keeping up with the 3rd and 4th dps. That 20% more dps for PLD spreadsheet is not really panning out.

I personally cant wait for next episode of Unchained as xeno and co usually does really deep tank analyzing in that show, and untill first raid tier its hard to say what will the numbers be when content gets serious. Gameplay vise PLD is now how it should have been in 2.0 so better late than never i guess, but numbers can still be tweaked so if it does most deeps while having all these new utility tools then i can see some nerfs coming in 4.1 assuming those utilities are actually useful in savage.

[Valdo_Mcleod]

I have to agree with MomoOG,Faytte and Ciderfox. As a main Paladin myself i enjoyed playing warrior on my boyfriends account. All tanks bring something different now to the table, which makes them all viable for any content. I have tried out the 3 of them at dungeon runs and they seem fine. Damage is not too far apart from each other. In the end it all comes down to player skill and how optimal/geared are you playing your class.

[Valdo_Mcleod]

We will have to see how they play with the content for Raids and how needed each one of the tanks are for their skills. If you like a class don't give it up because X class is the most optimal on paper/spreadsheets. The only thing i noticed with all 3 is a lack of keeping good aoe enmity when running with some specific dps classes. I have been encouraging a lot people to please use Diversion before burst damage phases and it helps a lot. Overall all tanks have a different flavor to them now, from this expansion on wards devs probably want to give each tank its own identity/feel. They are most likely looking more towards the future of each tank and not just for Stormblood.

[Delorean]

I have to agree with MomoOG,Faytte and Ciderfox. As a main Paladin myself i enjoyed playing warrior on my boyfriends account. All tanks bring something different now to the table, which makes them all viable for any content. I have tried out the 3 of them at dungeon runs and they seem fine. Damage is not too far apart from each other. In the end it all comes down to player skill and how optimal/geared are you playing your class.

i thought warrior was fine when i did titan

but according the community it wasn't lol. my static didn't run into problems until turn 5 but people stuck warriors with the stigma regardless

[Jim_Berry]

All of you stay off PLD. Leave it to me. I was PLD when people didn't want us for Gordias. Keep your filthy DRKs and WARs.

[Faeon]

Reminds me of 3.x where no one wanted a PLD in there group due to there lack of DPS and utility, and the meta was WAR and DRK. I even switched to WAR in 3.x from PLD due to no one wanting PLD in there static. This is always going to go round and round. I don't think it is fixable to-be honest, as raids will always favor the most dps output from the tanks and utility second. Will be interesting to see what the new raid content is about, which will be the deciding factor.