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  1. #51
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    This Thread is Dangerous to the Community.

    It's been shown time and time that IFRIT is perfectly beatable, even without six or four lancers. It's knowing the fight, participating in it more, getting the feel of the pace, the experience of it.

    Really, I can't truly understand what you're arguing about. This fight is MEANT to be endgame, not a breeze through. You need skill for it; if you don't, go practice somewhere else. Leave IFRIT alone.
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    Last edited by whoopeeragon; 10-31-2011 at 11:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post

    he fight is not hard once it is figured out and no way impossible. The fight should not be simplified in anyway, players unable to beat it need to rise up to meet the challenge.
    this. the fight is predictable as is, just obvserve patterns and win
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    If I beat Ifrit with 6 people, no lancers, will that shut anyone up about difficulty?
    haha i would like to see that, sounds like an interesting challenge
    will root for you guys from the not so burning sidewalk
    dont forget to bring carl to f**k him up ^~^
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    I am not asking for the fight to be simplified. I am asking that Yoshi-P use proper game development processes to develop content that will actually be enjoyable.

    I don't mean, like...

    Step 1: Design the content.
    Step 2: Internal Testing
    Step 3: Publish the content.
    Step 4: ???
    Step 5: Derp!

    That's the old way of doing things. The new game development process many western studios have adopted for online titles is to be more inclusive in their testing process to get as large a sample in feedback as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    If I beat Ifrit with 6 people, no lancers, will that shut anyone up about difficulty?
    no it will prove you an elitist show off, (and i have no doubt u could do it :P), but that wouldn't make it easy for the rest of us. ifirt is hard and should be hard but what one person finds hard is not the same as another so lets not get into this not its not its easy fight. yoshi p said it would be hard, stop crying. its as bad as ppl crying the story is too easy. you can't please all the ppl all the time.
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    What I have shown you is reality. What you remember, that is the illusion.

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    fought him half naked before, will do full naked soon~
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvertearRen View Post
    technical and human limitations.
    Yup because every party that has defeated ifirit has to be both.

    A- Located inside the servers so they have no client lag
    B- Robots
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvertearRen View Post
    I am not asking for the fight to be simplified. I am asking that Yoshi-P use proper game development processes to develop content that will actually be enjoyable.

    I don't mean, like...

    Step 1: Design the content.
    Step 2: Internal Testing
    Step 3: Publish the content.
    Step 4: ???
    Step 5: Derp!

    That's the old way of doing things. The new game development process many western studios have adopted for online titles is to be more inclusive in their testing process to get as large a sample in feedback as possible.

    so you want the content in the PTR so you can whine and QQ about how its too hard before its released?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raijin View Post
    so you want the content in the PTR so you can whine and QQ about how its too hard before its released?
    Yes, precisely. So I can make a stronger case to Yoshi-P and Square Enix for a scaling-difficulty featureset to be used in all endgame content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvertearRen View Post
    I am not asking for the fight to be simplified. I am asking that Yoshi-P use proper game development processes to develop content that will actually be enjoyable.

    I don't mean, like...

    Step 1: Design the content.
    Step 2: Internal Testing
    Step 3: Publish the content.
    Step 4: ???
    Step 5: Derp!

    That's the old way of doing things. The new game development process many western studios have adopted for online titles is to be more inclusive in their testing process to get as large a sample in feedback as possible.
    is this a troll? cos this is too funny to be real. are you saying yoshi-p knows less about game design than you. and before you answer, just try and remember when one of the biggest game companies in the worlds, gave you control of one of their flag ship games?
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    Last edited by grandm; 10-31-2011 at 11:10 AM.
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