Powerleveling Revisited

[Denmo]

I third that notion. A good party can get crazy wacko exp anyway, without a PLer. There's no excuse.

[Ganvire]

I third that notion. A good party can get crazy wacko exp anyway, without a PLer. There's no excuse.

Didn't read all of the posts in this thread, but let me back up this statement: I was getting 1k EXP per mob last night in my 39~43 party as a 36 CON and got to 39 in absolutely no time at all before I hit the sack. I am so goddamned tired of people complaining how hard it is to level in this game.

This game is not hard. This game is easy, if anything, and if you can't work together in a reasonable fashion with other players and get EASY EXPERIENCE POINTS like everyone else, then you seriously need to find a different game. This isn't the one for you.

It's not that hard.

[Tiraelina]

Didn't read all of the posts in this thread, but let me back up this statement: I was getting 1k EXP per mob last night in my 39~43 party as a 36 CON and got to 39 in absolutely no time at all before I hit the sack. I am so goddamned tired of people complaining how hard it is to level in this game.

This game is not hard. This game is easy, if anything, and if you can't work together in a reasonable fashion with other players and get EASY EXPERIENCE POINTS like everyone else, then you seriously need to find a different game. This isn't the one for you.

It's not that hard.

I think you are confusing hard with mind numbing grinding that should've died off 5 years ago.

Higher levels are also easy, it's painful to level sub 30 with the level variation and something a couple levels higher than you being death.

[Ganvire]

I think you are confusing hard with mind numbing grinding that should've died off 5 years ago.

Higher levels are also easy, it's painful to level sub 30 with the level variation and something a couple levels higher than you being death.

You find it "mind-numbing," I find it entertaining with the right group of people. Right now, this is kind of what we're stuck with, and until 2.0 I doubt it's going to change.

[Fieros]

it's painful to level sub 30 with the level variation and something a couple levels higher than you being death.

So instead of fixing this issue of the game not being fun and enjoyable before level XX, support powerleveling to bypass the situation?

[Tiraelina]

So instead of fixing this issue of the game not being fun and enjoyable before level XX, support powerleveling to bypass the situation?

I would like the issue fixed and there to be content to last levelling 7 combat classes along with DoL/H. Enjoyable working design and mob levels/camps that aren't scattered randomly but that isn't going to happen any time soon as demonstrated by recent patches. Stealth for DoL was the biggest design cop-out I've seen instead of just fixing the limited areas/sub sections we get to gather in.

Majority seem to enjoy bandaid fixes that don't truly change anything. Pretty much demonstrated by the hostility towards improvements because "I did it this way, so should everyone else.". Good start would be making leves available from the camp they get turned in at and not having DoH leves completely random.

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I've declined in playing because I have a strong dislike for bad game design which this game is full of.

[Dragon]

Fully agree. I am starting to leave parties that have Pls. I don't mind the XI form of PLs where someone stands outside and heals, but I absolutely refuse to stand there and do nothing. I play FFXIV for enjoyment (Yes, it can actually be pretty fun) but I can't enjoy the game sitting on the sidelines getting free exp. A lot of people say it's a ticket into the "fun part."

Well I want to earn that ticket. I don't want it to be handed to me.

Though after 1.19a PLing isn't so bad anymore. It still does exist but I will still avoid it.

Right. At least with how XI worked, you still had to do something in the party to earn the exp.

If you do not like it you should have left the party. Stop killing fun for others.. I have 4 jobs at cap and if i want to help a friend or get help i should be able to. And OF COURSE you say ff11 did it right you and almost everyone esle thinks f11 did no wrong.... it sickens me.

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1. He did leave the party.
2. He was the one that took his time to both form and manage the party to begin with.

heres my 3 pennies and a nickle... Plevel only exists b/c of 2 things, ignorance and bad coding. this is that whole wow mentality being transfered over subliminally through the internet into every MMO out there. 12 million idiots play wow and as a result, blizzard has made every other mmo have to cater that "i want my crap now or i quit!" mentality. so dont just blame 1 or 2 players and dont blame SE. you need to blame american society and blizzard and SE. actually come to think of it.. mostly just american society

Not really American society per-se... but to be precise, there's two specific generations in America that should be held accountable for the "I want everything now" mentality: the baby boomers and Generation Y (I don't even think Generation X was this bad). American society once-upon-a-time was at least about working hard and intelligently, anyways.