Powerleveling Revisited

[Zezlar]

Fully agree. I am starting to leave parties that have Pls. I don't mind the XI form of PLs where someone stands outside and heals, but I absolutely refuse to stand there and do nothing. I play FFXIV for enjoyment (Yes, it can actually be pretty fun) but I can't enjoy the game sitting on the sidelines getting free exp. A lot of people say it's a ticket into the "fun part."

Well I want to earn that ticket. I don't want it to be handed to me.

Though after 1.19a PLing isn't so bad anymore. It still does exist but I will still avoid it.

[Zenaku]

I have a hard time believing that the OP is on Selbina and every group he has formed or joined ends up being power leveled. I've power leveled people before on occasion, there is nothing wrong with it. If people choose to play that way and help others do something faster or more easily that is their choice, there is nothing sinister about it.

Now if this had a real impact on the number of legitimate groups I'd say you had a point. I love grouping and if everyone just stopped grouping because they would rather get power leveled I'd be disappointed. That isn't happening though. It seems you are just an anti-powerleveling zealot who demanded that everyone in your group conform to your strict standards of fair leveling.

No one forces you to power level, and you can certainly find enough other people looking for regular groups too. I'm on Selbina I know this is true.

I'm from selbina and most party we make end up wanting a powerlevel and they get one even if i'm the leader they just disband and go with the Powerlevel. Just because it does not happen to you everyday does not mean it don't happen to the rest of us it becoming a big issue and powerlevel should never be allow that a person kill the mob for you.

FFXI version of powerlevel i agree with.

[Issac]

The only time I can feel 100% safe that no one will try to bring in a PLVL is when I'm lucky enough to have people all from my linkshell in the party. If just 5/8 in the party are from my linkshell, we stand a better chance if one of those pickups insist on a plvl.

That person can leave, we can find a replacement. Even if all 3 random pickups leave for the PLVL, we can still find replacements.

But if it's 7/8 - 6/8 random pickups, more often than not the party is split apart when someone brings it up. It is becoming harder and harder for me to level with a group legitimately. I was already long-winded in the OP and won't re-explain this.

[Aleczan]

No one forces you to power level, and you can certainly find enough other people looking for regular groups too. I'm on Selbina I know this is true.

The point being in the OP is that people joined for normal EXP party, and then suddenly decided to bring in a PL, resulting in the breaking of the party. That's just plain rude, in my opinion. What a party-pooper! If they have no desire to EXP the normal way, then don't join EXP party. Please just go ahead and level up with the PL, don't join other people's party and then wreck it.

[DNO]

If you do not like it you should have left the party. Stop killing fun for others.. I have 4 jobs at cap and if i want to help a friend or get help i should be able to. And OF COURSE you say ff11 did it right you and almost everyone esle thinks f11 did no wrong.... it sickens me.

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[Murugan]

The point being in the OP is that people joined for normal EXP party, and then suddenly decided to bring in a PL, resulting in the breaking of the party. That's just plain rude, in my opinion. What a party-pooper! If they have no desire to EXP the normal way, then don't join EXP party. Please just go ahead and level up with the PL, don't join other people's party and then wreck it.

So if someone is willing to be power leveled they should not be allowed to EXP in a normal party also?

Do you hear yourself? You honestly think that is a reasonable stance to take and not just you overreacting to the fact that some people occasionally power level.

[Zenaku]

So if someone is willing to be power leveled they should not be allowed to EXP in a normal party also?

Do you hear yourself? You honestly think that is a reasonable stance to take and not just you overreacting to the fact that some people occasionally power level.

You make a party your the leader 6-5 people are pick up 1-2 people say i have a powerlevel you say no thanks my party no powerlevel. The party break up by half or everyone leave to get powerlevel. You left to go back to town to find more people which may do the same thing again.

So are you listening to yourself or you don't understand the issue we talking about here?

[Zenith]

I really think people should get over this powerlevel thing. Most people now just get powerleveled to 25 ish then start 8man groups to grind with till 50. I rarely see people getting powerleveled beyond 25 now and the only reason they do it and I do it is because leveling 1-30 is ridiculously slow. We also have to "earn" it now because we have to claim the mobs, so no use in saying we don't "earn" it lmao.

I am pretty sure the one's complaining fall under the category of not having a good social linkshell and get jealous because they are scared to ask people or just hardheaded fools. Lastly, you don't learn your class by mindlessly grinding to 50; you learn your class by experimenting with abilities, now I wonder how in the world you can experiment with abilities...HMmmm...

[Issac]

I really think people should get over this powerlevel thing. Most people now just get powerleveled to 25 ish then start 8man groups to grind with till 50. I rarely see people getting powerleveled beyond 25 now and the only reason they do it and I do it is because leveling 1-30 is ridiculously slow. We also have to "earn" it now because we have to claim the mobs, so no use in saying we don't "earn" it lmao.

I am pretty sure the one's complaining fall under the category of not having a good social linkshell and get jealous because they are scared to ask people or just hardheaded fools. Lastly, you don't learn your class by mindlessly grinding to 50; you learn your class by experimenting with abilities, now I wonder how in the world you can experiment with abilities...HMmmm...

It has happened to me when making parties anywhere from 10-40.

Edit;
Anywhere up to 40 I have experienced it. It finally drops off 40+.

[Zenith]

It has happened to me when making parties anywhere from 10-40.

Probably your server because on Figaro 90% of the people just form 8man parties to grind which is just as fast as PLing anyways. The only people I ever see getting PLed is 1-30 ish and I don't blame them. Figaro is one of the highest pop servers with Selbina. The point of any MMO is to have fun with your friends and it would surely suck to get behind in levels cause I had to do it the "right" way and be sure to use the same abilities 1 million times to make sure I "learn" it.