Lupin - make it a playable race!

[KazumaFaemura]

I don't really need to go search through hundreds of videos for your sake. As I said, you're very free to hold your breath.

I'll be content with the nearly absolute notion that this will never happen, both for story reason, aesthetics, and for much simpler and more stringent marketing reasons.

People like you actually piss me off, you want to argue against it and when asked to provide proof you sissy out. I see absolutely no reason as to why they can't but say an Au'Ra can.

But fine if you don't wanna go through videos, just tell me the quest and I'll look up the cutscene myself in my journal.

[Abriael]

People like you actually piss me off, you want to argue against it and when asked to provide proof you sissy out. I see absolutely no reason as to why they can't but say an Au'Ra can.

Au Ra are not beastmen.

Feel free to be pissed off, it's no skin off my back if you get easily irritated. People don't have the responsibility to do research for your sake. The notion that beastmen tribes are alien to the warrior of light and the scions is scattered all across the story, since the very beginning of 1.0 all the way to now.

Considering its obviously a request to the devs and not to you its very clear it does not matter how much you say how it cant happen.

Feel free to request whatever you like. It still won't happen, but people's boats are floated by worse things than requesting stuff that doesn't fit a game's story or marketing.

It'll be already luxury if Square Enix will decide to spend all the development resources for a new race for a game in this state of maturity, instead of funneling it into more content that the majority of the playerbase will enjoy. If you think they're gonna greenlight a new race that requires more work due to its foreign nature with the current character models, and will be played by an overwhelmed minority of the player base, I see a bit of naivety, but it's still your prerogative to ask.

[Rysir]

Feel free to request whatever you like. It still won't happen, but people's boats are floated by worse things than requesting stuff that doesn't fit a game's story or marketing.

Have you considered just letting people have their requests without being that one person who just has to say it cant happen? As the viera request thread has shown it adds nothing to have the whole "IT CANT HAPPEN" Or "I DONT WANT IT TO HAPPEN" song and dance and just makes people argue then get mad.

Besides things in this game can get retconned at any time, especially story pieces which is why its incredibly silly to just say something cant happen when you are not even one of the devs.

If the devs say no and it cant happen then GG oh well. You hopping in saying no and it cant happen then well the chance to happen is still there.

[Uielyave]

Such negativity! Relaaax. Let people ask for whatever and go on with your life. No sense getting bent outta shape and antagonizing people~

[KazumaFaemura]

TLDR

Most of the work is already done! They are already using weapons and wearing different pieces of armor as NPCs, the most they would HAVE to do is add customization to the game. Also just them adding the Au'Ra as a playable race screwed with the story as it was. They start the same as any other race in the game. We never stepped foot into Doma or knew of their race till the end of 2.0. So how in hell did the playable one even get to Eorzea in the first place. See how much your story makes sense when you are helping them as a brand new one?

I was asking you to do any research neither. I was simply asking you to prove me wrong.

[Abriael]

Have you considered just letting people have their requests without being that one person who just has to say it cant happen? As the viera request thread has shown it adds nothing to have the whole "IT CANT HAPPEN" Or "I DONT WANT IT TO HAPPEN" song and dance and just makes people argue then get mad.

This is a discussion forum. It's made for discussion, and discussion is made of opinions pro and against an argument. If you want to make your requests without the interference of those who think it can't happen or shouldn't happen, I suggest you get a blog or a tumblr and lock the content, that way you can toot your horn without counterpoints all you want.

Most of the work is already done! They are already using weapons and wearing different pieces of armor as NPCs, the most they would HAVE to do is add customization to the game. Also just them adding the Au'Ra as a playable race screwed with the story as it was. They start the same as any other race in the game. We never stepped foot into Doma or knew of their race till the end of 2.0. So how in hell did the playable one even get to Eorzea in the first place. See how much your story makes sense when you are helping them as a brand new one?

Au Ra are not beastmen. They do not impact the story as it's written.

Also, the "most of the work is already done" shows me that you aren't very familiar with game development.

Implementing a race as NPC and implementing it as player characters is in an entirely different order of magnitude in terms of work loads and resources. Almost none of the work is already done.

As NPCs that serve basically only as targets and with very limited participation to cutscenes, they can use a low definition skeleton and limited rigs. They have a very limited selection of equipment that is specifically chosen because it works with how they're designed.

In order to become playable all that would need to be overhauled, all equipment would need extensive redesign/adaptation. Even just the big beard/mane thing they have would cause massive clipping issues with existing equipment and existing animations.

[Rysir]

This is a discussion forum. It's made for discussion, and discussion is made of opinions pro and against an argument.

Indeed it is and saying "I dont want this race because" is fine to say but "This race just cant happen because I say so" is not.
Because you hold no authority you have no ability to say something cant be added to the game but you are able to state your opinion on why you dont want it.

Saying you dont want it because you feel it does not work in the story thats fine but saying it cant because the story does not allow it is not really your call.
We are talking about requesting a race that is compatible with anything other races can do minus helmets and is already in the game, not some random idea so its not like people are requesting some wild ass race from the blue.

Also its a discussion forum and thus you cant parade around trying to shut others down by saying it cant happen.

[Abriael]

Indeed it is and saying "I dont want this race because" is fine to say but "This race just cant happen because I say so" is not.

I'm afraid that it's not up to you to decide whether I can say something or not, as long as I abide to the rules of the forum, which I obviously am.

Because you hold no authority you have no ability to say something cant be added to the game but you are able to state your opinion on why you dont want it.

No one here holds any authority unless they're marked as developers or reps. By your logic, no one here should say anything. According to my view of the story, and my (admittedly mostly indirect) experience in the industry, the possibility of this to happen are very close to zero, and I'll say exactly that.

Also its a discussion forum and thus you cant parade around trying to shut others down by saying it cant happen.

You may not like being shut down, but that's an entirely valid form of discussion. I'm not here to please anyone.

You know what I'm done with you. Your input isn't worth a grain of salt to me anymore. You'll clearly argue against it no matter what we say.

I'm not sure why you expected to be able to say something that would make me argue otherwise or drop my argument?

[KazumaFaemura]

TLDR

Oh there is plenty I could say especially of the Au'ra but you're no longer worth any of my time. I'm sick of your attitude, it's toxic as crap so I'm done. I have a stream to run

[Rysir]

Duff

I expected you to stop being so antagonistic over a request multiple people want but okay I'll play.

Your word is law and everyone should bow down and totally stop talking about it because mr big man on campus Abriael says it dont work so lets just shut down all talking because Ser Abriael says its just so not happening! Like bro! This man says it cant happen so that means it just cant! Oh lord!


Also I dont mind being shut down, but only when its the devs which who actually can. Like dude you cant stop nobody from wanting something.