So what now ffxiv will you re-pay for us ?

[lscuml]

No matter how many kick up a fuss, it's highly dubious anything will come of it. Fact is, it's just not financially applicable for a company to invest in hardware that won't be utilized in a few weeks or a month down the line. The instanced areas ARE working, but there is too much congestion on the servers. It will balance out. SE need to make money. Money is everything. Money comes first. And no matter how many hundreds-of-thousands of people are upset, we'll all forget about this in a few weeks when it balances out. This is how MMO launches always have been. FFXIV Devs are likely to give us some compensation in the form of subscription time & perhaps some other tidbits.

I understand everyone is upset, and we've all been looking forward to this for a long time. My friends are unable to do: MSQ/POTD/Dungeons/Instances of ANY kind/PvP etc. This is only in certain non-instanced zones. It sucks but it happens.

The overwhelming popularity of this game is a good problem. No big MMO company is immune to launch day problems. Just think back to Warlords of Draenor. (...And countless other examples there's no point in mentioning.) Almost every MMO has problems during launch or expansion launch; the issues likely won't persist very long. Just because YOU, I or GEORGI WALLACE down the street have issues with this launch, does not mean the whole launch is terrible for everyone. People are a lot more vocal when they are displeased than when they are content. Have patience.

Thankfully, I have art coms keeping me very busy, I don't really care too much about early access, and I am sick as hell. But the explosion of self-entitled complainers had to be commented on. Not everyone is raging. Some of us are fine riding out the storm.

best response i've seen all day.

[Caradoc]

Hmm...I think it would be only just to provide some form of compensation for this issue. But it needn't be something to atrociously valuable. An acknowledgement and apology is what I think would be most desired at this point. The silence is deafening. And insulting. A simple queue mechanic on single person dungeons would be ideal to reduce load, without requiring new servers, or re-allocation of server structure. Please implement something like that.

[AraneaXV]

I don't care what your opinion is on if early access is a paid service or not. Clearly SE has done nothing to address this issue. The last 3 responses from the producer said the following, "try again later." Not we have a plan, or we did this or that, or trying this. They just basically said, "yep, sucks." No other region is experiencing this. And you can't say that they didn't anticipate the big release, because they clearly said so a month before launch. They could have found some arbitrary way to address this issue. initiating a queue for the instance, instead of complete randomness. Have the instance moved to a duty finder/party finder to help track it. They could do more than just tell us, everything is fine, just lots of people, then why did you put two instances in the first zone of the expansion!? Move a freaking npc, take down the servers to clear the bottleneck! You say you're restricting people from logging in to help address the congestion, but failed to realize that the majority of the players trying haven't left, so you fixed nothing!

Umm yes they have. Do you even read the lodestone? They have been updating it quite frequently, and working there asses of while people complain because they are so self entitled, and think they need instant gratification for early access. Something mind you that you did NOT pay for it was just a bonus. If people are so self entitled now adays then you are all in for a wild ride. "Specifically Raubahn's wild ride" c;

[ColorOfSakura]

Do I think free game time is something SE should do to make up for the expansion not being functional? Yes.

But that being said - I still understand the difference between Launch and "Early Access". Early Access is a stress test of sorts - its there to gauge how the new systems and stuff will respond to a live playerbase accessing them. It's to make sure that if there /are/ problems - they can be addressed and hopefully fixed via maintenances before launch. Clearly the playerbase has discovered some pretty nasty issues - hopefully the Dev Team will be able to repair those issues prior to the official launch of the software. But that doesn't change the fact that SE's most valuable players - their regulars - are still suffering from these issues. I do think we should be afforded some sort of playtime compensation.

[DanteKardo]

Let's make one thing clear.

Complaing about a product you've purchased is not self-entitled. People aren't able to play base game XIV or HW properly either due to the issues brought by SB. This is not a free game. We're not freeloading.

We paid for a service that currently is behaving sub-par, the reasonings behind this don't really matter. The responsibility lays with Square to fix this as soon as possible, not the players to 'deal with it'.

This 'patience' virtue signalling BS may be your gig, but for many others it is not. I'm keeping myself busy otherwise aswell. This does not mean I will pretend to be pleased or to not care. Nor does it mean that anyone here is 'entitled' for demanding things to be fixed.

Lastly; Game breaking bugs are not just something that 'happens with congestion'. The Susanoo crash that entirely locks players out of the game is something they should have known about and fixed prior.

Long story short ; All those who purchased this game have a right to complain about it's quality and bugs now. You're also in the bugs/issues section. If you're looking for the 'praise SE' section, please direct yourself to the other forum parts.

[MorriganAensland69]

You guys complain about the Main story quest..You wanna listen to what is happening to me and to my friends? Well we been in que 3500 ppl been waiting for 30+ minutes...and when it reached 0 we got the message Lobby server error..and then we tried to log in again and we are back in que 3500..we cant even log in the game..Square enix doesn't care...all they care about is putting their name on CUP NOODLES..and to make more money..

[AraneaXV]

Do I think free game time is something SE should do to make up for the expansion not being functional? Yes.

But that being said - I still understand the difference between Launch and "Early Access". Early Access is a stress test of sorts - its there to gauge how the new systems and stuff will respond to a live playerbase accessing them. It's to make sure that if there /are/ problems - they can be addressed and hopefully fixed via maintenances before launch. Clearly the playerbase has discovered some pretty nasty issues - hopefully the Dev Team will be able to repair those issues prior to the official launch of the software. But that doesn't change the fact that SE's most valuable players - their regulars - are still suffering from these issues. I do think we should be afforded some sort of playtime compensation.

I don't think any compensation is needed, but if we get any sort of compensation just make it so the next 4 days at launch our sub doesn't count for. Either way Yoshi-P and the team don't owe anything to anyone.

[Ghostspeaker]

If it was just queues or the MSQ bug you guys saying we aren't owed anything would have a point.

Unfortunately a lot of us are unable to do ANYTHING without getting automatically disconnected before we even zone in and then getting disconnected again right away as soon as you get through the queue. It's happened to me so far with POTD, dungeons, the infamous MSQ quest, and the first instanced quest in the game.

It's one thing to be unable to do the MSQ or have to wait in a queue. But being completely unable to play the game or even log in, that is completely unacceptable.

[Galka_Rock]

There are lots of other things you can do in Stormblood besides that. We're still in early access, which means that we're basically stress testing everything. Go look for aether currents, or do some side quests! Lots of fun things to do!

[AngryLizard]

There are lots of other things you can do in Stormblood besides that. We're still in early access, which means that we're basically stress testing everything. Go look for aether currents, or do some side quests! Lots of fun things to do!

The issue is it's not only Mr. Bahn's Wild Ride, or Pool of Tribute Perma-Lock thats screwing people over. The 90k error hell is affecting every part of the game. We got people doing ARR content on new toons getting affected by the error, and bottlenecks. We have people getting disconnected just idling in their FC house reorganizing toolbars, or from just looking at the MB. And this is across nearly every server atm. Even the preferred worlds.

We can't simply go do other things, because doing anything results in us crashing with the dread 90002/90006 error hell. I've been getting nothing but them and this is an error I've NEVER had in the year or so I've played FFXIV. So as it stands we're literally sitting in player queues to get disconnected after having shelled out money for early access, and all Square has really said is "Do something else". Also incredibly unfair that we have to just sit and hope we win the RNG roullete. I've seen on balmung people who have accessed the new city in the single digits...

I would love to do something else, man, I really would. But I can't do anything except fiddle with a mouse waiting for the 90002s to finally stop