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    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    You now cast the strongest spell of its tier. Rather than having to cast Stone 1 when at a lower level and Stone 2 or 3 at a higher level, your "Stone" spell upgrades or downgrades automatically depending on your level so you only need 1 button on your hotbar. It's a quality of life update.

    Lots of spells and potencies for BLM have been buffed in damage to account for losing out on Raging Strikes.
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    Suki Pursia
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    Thaumaturge Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    You now cast the strongest spell of its tier. Rather than having to cast Stone 1 when at a lower level and Stone 2 or 3 at a higher level, your "Stone" spell upgrades or downgrades automatically depending on your level so you only need 1 button on your hotbar.
    It's those lower skills I/we depended on. Thunder for the low cost, fire 1 for low cost and the level 3 versions of each only used on a proc. So how is changing this a benefit to us?
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    Madeye Moxie
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Suki_Pursia View Post
    It's those lower skills I/we depended on. Thunder for the low cost, fire 1 for low cost and the level 3 versions of each only used on a proc. So how is changing this a benefit to us?
    Mage spells didn't change. Each different fire/ice spell do different things are weren't consolidated for that reason. But there is literally no reason at all to use thunder 1, stone 1, etc if you have a better version available. If you were doing so, you were doing something horribly wrong and were hurting your dps quite badly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhysati View Post
    Mage spells didn't change. Each different fire/ice spell do different things are weren't consolidated for that reason. But there is literally no reason at all to use thunder 1, stone 1, etc if you have a better version available. If you were doing so, you were doing something horribly wrong and were hurting your dps quite badly.
    Pre-update Ice 1 hit with heavy, stone 1 did the same, they took that away with the later skills. I had just gotten to the level to use Stone 2, and no heavy. If I hit something from a distance, I like for them to be slowed so I get a chance to kill them before they get to me and start dealing damage. Now, with a lack of the thunder 1, I lost that extra MP saved by using it (107MP cost at my level I think, to a 603 cost now on 3?) and have to transpose more frequently than the 12 second cooldown would let me.
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    Svana Fyth
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Suki_Pursia View Post
    It's those lower skills I/we depended on. Thunder for the low cost, fire 1 for low cost and the level 3 versions of each only used on a proc. So how is changing this a benefit to us?
    You didn't lose fire 1. They didn't do the "forced upgrade" on skills that actually mattered, only on skills where the lower level skill became literally useless once you got the higher tier version of it. The only exception to this is Thunder, but frankly, that's not nearly as big a deal as you're making it out to be. Also, Physick on Black MAge after about lv30 was completely useless anyway, and we only ran it because there was literally nothing else to bother putting on there. As someone who's been playing since 1.0, I'm honestly finding this whole rant of yours completely offensive. You've put months into the game? I've put years into the game. This update is golden. I'm not happy with 100% of it (they took away my poledance skill from drg ; ; ), but the shit you're complaining about is a joke, and I'm pretty sure you're lying about most of what you're claiming you and your fiance are doing and how this expansion has impacted that.
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    You now cast the strongest spell of its tier.
    The issue is when they're not direct upgrades, or previously were not (carried additional effects and/or had reduced cast times or mana cost).
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