any1 else ready to boost to level 60 and skip story?

[SDaemon]

those people won't be in any advanced content either because they still haven't done MSQ. If you've done MSQ you've at least done some duties. So, you should be a little familiar with how to play.

Advanced content? It is leveling content. MSQ content is leveling content that has little to no checks. You can get through MSQ content spamming moves without any real rotation. You can get as much familiarity running your job through the MSQ as you would just practicing on a test dummy, or you can potentially learn nothing. (People have leveled through the MSQ for several years now and don't have a familiarity with their jobs.)

[savageink]

Advanced content? It is leveling content. MSQ content is leveling content that has little to no checks. You can get through MSQ content spamming moves without any real rotation. You can get as much familiarity running your job through the MSQ as you would just practicing on a test dummy, or you can potentially learn nothing. (People have leveled through the MSQ for several years now and don't have a familiarity with their jobs.)

I didn't say it was great experience. But better than fates or soloable dungeons.

[SDaemon]

I didn't say it was great experience. But better than fates or soloable dungeons.

Not really. You can just as easily learn your job doing fates and soloable dungeons, or not. The only real factor influencing anything in all 3 situations is the player choosing to learn their job, not the content they are doing it in.

[savageink]

Not really. You can just as easily learn your job doing fates and soloable dungeons, or not. The only real factor influencing anything in all 3 situations is the player choosing to learn their job, not the content they are doing it in.

No. You can't. You can't learn to tank without BLMs stealing aggro. You can't learn to prioritize healing without something to heal. I play dps, I had to learn when to use the BRD songs for them to matter. I never use them in FATEs. Why would I? Who am I going to buff? Yes, you have to want to get better to learn your role, but to say that FATEs is even close to doing Garuda or Titan Hard mode mechanics is a bit off.

[Maliki_Ozari]

No. You can't. You can't learn to tank without BLMs stealing aggro. You can't learn to prioritize healing without something to heal. I play dps, I had to learn when to use the BRD songs for them to matter. I never use them in FATEs. Why would I? Who am I going to buff? Yes, you have to want to get better to learn your role, but to say that FATEs is even close to doing Garuda or Titan Hard mode mechanics is a bit off.

Yes, you actually can.

So in your opinion, if you only fate leveled, you would have no idea how to use bard songs in a dungeon?

Uh... Ok.

Also, who levels on Garuda and Titan hard mode? Dungeon leveling won't teach you those mechanics either. This seems like a silly thing to say.

[SDaemon]

but to say that FATEs is even close to doing Garuda or Titan Hard mode mechanics is a bit off.

You are bringing up fight mechanics. That isn't the same as learning your rotation, what your jobs does, and how it works. You can know your job and how to perform it without knowing mechanics to a fight.

[savageink]

Yes, you actually can.

So in your opinion, if you only fate leveled, you would have no idea how to use bard songs in a dungeon?

Uh... Ok.

Also, who levels on Garuda and Titan hard mode? Dungeon leveling won't teach you those mechanics either. This seems like a silly thing to say.

I'm talking about things in the MSQ. And reading about stuff is different then doing it. So, yeah, I'm sure you read some notes about your role and were perfect from day one.

You are bringing up fight mechanics. That isn't the same as learning your rotation, what your jobs does, and how it works. You can know your job and how to perform it without knowing mechanics to a fight.

And I was just mentioning a few things in the MSQ that are obviously harder than Fates and involve using your job skills AND learning mechanics. If you can't see beyond an example to what I'm saying then it's not my problem.

[SDaemon]

And I was just mentioning a few things in the MSQ that are obviously harder than the MSQ and involve using your job skills AND learning mechanics. If you can't see beyond an example to what I'm saying then it's not my problem.

If you can't see the difference between learning and knowing your job and learning and knowing mechanics then it's not my problem.