The glamour system is awful. We deserve an overhaul.

[Zumi]

Yoshi P said today they didn't want to do glamor log book because it would make save files bigger and they are constantly rewriting the save file every time you do zone or do something which would tax the servers too much. Here is a solution to that problem. Would it be possible to only write to the glamor log file if a change occurs that effects the glamor log such as getting a new piece of gear. Otherwise do not write to this file when changing zones or other stuff that causes a full save file rewrite.

[Valenth]

Yoshi P said today they didn't want to do glamor log book because it would make save files bigger and they are constantly rewriting the save file every time you do zone or do something which would tax the servers too much. Here is a solution to that problem. Would it be possible to only write to the glamor log file if a change occurs that effects the glamor log such as getting a new piece of gear. Otherwise do not write to this file when changing zones or other stuff that causes a full save file rewrite.

If they used one row of each part in the Armoury to enable us to, say, allocate 5 outfits too, I would be happy. It wouldn't consume any more inventory/file size than before.

[Vhailor]

Yoshi P said today they didn't want to do glamor log book because it would make save files bigger and they are constantly rewriting the save file every time you do zone or do something which would tax the servers too much. Here is a solution to that problem. Would it be possible to only write to the glamor log file if a change occurs that effects the glamor log such as getting a new piece of gear. Otherwise do not write to this file when changing zones or other stuff that causes a full save file rewrite.

Yoshi P has no idea what he's talking about in this case. It's a patently ridiculous excuse. The current Glamour system "remembers" which gear you've Glamoured already, so file sizes wouldn't be affected in the slightest on regular zones or the like. All we want is the ability to not keep the gear in our inventory (less information stored!). Nobody would complain if we had to talk to an NPC or some such in order to "set" our Glamours.

Honestly, I find the excuses to be the most annoying part of all this. They're so ridiculous, so unbelievable, that they are downright insulting. If the dev team doesn't want to do it, just tell us so.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Nobody would complain if we had to talk to an NPC or some such in order to "set" our Glamours.

I would. That's why I like the system, I can change outfits on a whim no matter where I am. If they take it out, what's the point? It'll just be like Armored Core with horrendously massive UI pages and 20-30 menus you have to scroll through at 0 tangible benefit.

[Vhailor]

I would. That's why I like the system, I can change outfits on a whim no matter where I am. If they take it out, what's the point? It'll just be like Armored Core with horrendously massive UI pages and 20-30 menus you have to scroll through at 0 tangible benefit.

Seriously? You'd rather your inventory be clogged with god knows how many items, have to go into a Retainer or your Armoire to fetch out seldom-used items, have to maintain supplies of dye and prisms for when you need to re-glamour new equipment? Is all of that REALLY worth not having to teleport and run for 30 seconds to talk to an NPC?

Anyway, I do stand corrected - I should avoid using the word 'nobody'. But I do feel confident in saying the vast, vast majority of the FFXIV player base would immediately trade the pseudo-convenience of in-the-field Glamouring for a prism-less, dye-less system that doesn't require them to store dozens of otherwise-useless items in their limited Retainer / Inventory / Armoury / Armoire space.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

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Eh. None of my three retainers are even close to reaching maximum capacity, and really the only reason for a third one was so I could have a combat retainer. Still, I don't see any difference between visiting my retainers or armoire and running to an NPC. You're literally trading a tiny inconvenience for a much bigger one, especially with how many gear pieces there are in game, and still growing! Right now? If an upgrade drops or I suddenly get bored of my look mid fight, I can instantly change my look to a new one. Change that and I'll either be forced to go with a mismatched outfit, which I will not do, or complete the instance without the upgrade, which means that it's completely 100% worthless till I waste 20+ minutes going to a random NPC to do something I could've done in less than 1% of the time! I don't get why you want to clutter up something as innocuous as glamour with hundreds of pages of UI.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Eh. None of my three retainers are even close to reaching maximum capacity, and really the only reason for a third one was so I could have a combat retainer. Still, I don't see any difference between visiting my retainers or armoire and running to an NPC. You're literally trading a tiny inconvenience for a much bigger one, especially with how many gear pieces there are in game, and still growing! Right now? If an upgrade drops or I suddenly get bored of my look mid fight, I can instantly change my look to a new one. Change that and I'll either be forced to go with a mismatched outfit, which I will not do, or complete the instance without the upgrade, which means that it's completely 100% worthless till I waste 20+ minutes going to a random NPC to do something I could've done in less than 1% of the time! I don't get why you want to clutter up something as innocuous as glamour with hundreds of pages of UI.

You make it sound as though teleporting is some monumental task when it literally takes seconds. We already do this for checking market boards since none ever appear in the idle zones. How often do you carry around prisms anyway? I would much rather a system where all I needed to do was farm the item once, but we all know that would cut deep into their retainer budget. I'll settle for being able to glamour different looks on the same set of gear though.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

You make it sound as though teleporting is a monumental task.

Teleporting? Nah, that's not much work. Running to an Npc? Adds time... opening UI window one... opening UI window two... selecting gear piece... tabbing through the log of a gear list that would by now be pushing through the low four hundred pages... checking familiar looking item, wrong one, tabbing more... selecting item, tabbing through the just under 100 possible dye options in game...

See where I'm going with this? No. Thanks. Eff that.

In case the point is flying over your pretty little head, let me make it clear: I loathe systems that exist solely to make simple actions slogs of busywork. A glamour log? Huuuge slog. Even if it has a search function you'd still need to write down the list of outfits somewhere else in game if you don't want to spend hours going through your closet. Why do you want to spend that much time on clothes? All a glamour log would do is entice me to never change my look instead of bouncing between 20 different outfits.