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  1. #11
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    Enkidoh's Avatar
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Lore wise it wouldn't work either, as Disciples of Magic (with the possible exception of ACN and it's Jobs), use their weapon to focus the aether that powers their spells as a conduit. More so, the weapon actually is part of the casting; thaumaturgury spells are powered through the gemstone that all THM and BLM weapons are encrusted with, and Conjury requires a staff or wand "made of unworked wood" to help channel the natural aether from the environment as well as then focus that conjuration in the form of a spell. Arcanima uses arcane geometry written within the caster's grimoire to evoke spells like summoning Carbuncle (this is why they actually hold their grimoire in front of them and literally fire the spell out of the book).

    So lore wise, this prohibits "casting from the hand", hence why this just is not possible I'm afraid (to say nothing of having to change the casting animations as others have said).
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    Even if they did go through with it, they'd probably just do the simple task of making the weapon invis, so no actual new animations, which probably wouldn't look ideal.
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  3. #13
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    Ren'li Heise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
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    Back in 1.0 you could cast magic using your hands, so as i see it you can cast using your hands as long as you have the weapon close to you.

    In any case if SE were to do this it would make sense lore wise if you could just cast with the weapon sheathed, but this goes aganist the game system (combat mode), so the only option would be a glamour spell that just makes your weapon invisible.
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    Nonni Brilante
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    In any case if SE were to do this it would make sense lore wise if you could just cast with the weapon sheathed, but this goes aganist the game system (combat mode), so the only option would be a glamour spell that just makes your weapon invisible.
    Pretty much this. Emperor's new staff/rod/tome, and viola, casting without a weapon. Could maybe be done with a star globe, but that would just seem weird, and rapier probably wouldn't be done just because it has attacks with require holding a rapier.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Lore wise it wouldn't work either, as Disciples of Magic (with the possible exception of ACN and it's Jobs), use their weapon to focus the aether that powers their spells as a conduit. More so, the weapon actually is part of the casting; thaumaturgury spells are powered through the gemstone that all THM and BLM weapons are encrusted with, and Conjury requires a staff or wand "made of unworked wood" to help channel the natural aether from the environment as well as then focus that conjuration in the form of a spell. Arcanima uses arcane geometry written within the caster's grimoire to evoke spells like summoning Carbuncle (this is why they actually hold their grimoire in front of them and literally fire the spell out of the book).

    So lore wise, this prohibits "casting from the hand", hence why this just is not possible I'm afraid (to say nothing of having to change the casting animations as others have said).
    I get the lore, but at the same time, plenty of WHM weapons have been implemented that are clearly not made of wood (and this drives me nuts because, as a SMN, I always wanted a staff). It feels like they're really flexible with the lore.

    As far as arcanima, I think the geometry is used as a template for spells. But for carbuncle, they said somewhere it had to do with the geometries within precious stones (the crystalline structure). I don't know if the stone itself is needed for the spell (it was in FFXI, and the Summoner job advanced questline first tasked you with finding a Carbuncle's Ruby), or if written data would suffice.

    But I guess that would depend on the "lore" of being able to commit the geometry to memory, or if the geometry inscribed in aether-charged ink is needed.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klongol View Post
    Casting with hands is not a part of Final Fantasy image. The weapon has nearly always been a focus for casting dating back to the very beginning.
    FF1 primarily used their hands to cast spells. Weapon only came out when you used it to attack directly. Try again.

    XIV implementing Emperor's New Caster weapon should be entirely feasible.
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    Doctor Fumbles
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    I would love it if they added finger snapping animations like this

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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Lore wise it wouldn't work either, as Disciples of Magic (with the possible exception of ACN and it's Jobs), use their weapon to focus the aether that powers their spells as a conduit. More so, the weapon actually is part of the casting; thaumaturgury spells are powered through the gemstone that all THM and BLM weapons are encrusted with, and Conjury requires a staff or wand "made of unworked wood" to help channel the natural aether from the environment as well as then focus that conjuration in the form of a spell. Arcanima uses arcane geometry written within the caster's grimoire to evoke spells like summoning Carbuncle (this is why they actually hold their grimoire in front of them and literally fire the spell out of the book).

    So lore wise, this prohibits "casting from the hand", hence why this just is not possible I'm afraid (to say nothing of having to change the casting animations as others have said).
    Technically....

    Glamor is just layering the appearance over another item...
    Thus, the real item would still be there even with an invisible glamor...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrasper View Post
    I would love it if they added finger snapping animations like this

    What I feel like doing to these forums after reading all the 'obligatory sorry but not going to happen' posts that keep getting posted and posted...
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  10. #20
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    I admit, I would certainly enjoy an option to cast or change up an animation completely for the sake of removing the weapon for classes that made sense but I feel it may never happen or it end up in the void behind a barrier of cash.
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