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    Lore wise it wouldn't work either, as Disciples of Magic (with the possible exception of ACN and it's Jobs), use their weapon to focus the aether that powers their spells as a conduit. More so, the weapon actually is part of the casting; thaumaturgury spells are powered through the gemstone that all THM and BLM weapons are encrusted with, and Conjury requires a staff or wand "made of unworked wood" to help channel the natural aether from the environment as well as then focus that conjuration in the form of a spell. Arcanima uses arcane geometry written within the caster's grimoire to evoke spells like summoning Carbuncle (this is why they actually hold their grimoire in front of them and literally fire the spell out of the book).

    So lore wise, this prohibits "casting from the hand", hence why this just is not possible I'm afraid (to say nothing of having to change the casting animations as others have said).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
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    Back in 1.0 you could cast magic using your hands, so as i see it you can cast using your hands as long as you have the weapon close to you.

    In any case if SE were to do this it would make sense lore wise if you could just cast with the weapon sheathed, but this goes aganist the game system (combat mode), so the only option would be a glamour spell that just makes your weapon invisible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    In any case if SE were to do this it would make sense lore wise if you could just cast with the weapon sheathed, but this goes aganist the game system (combat mode), so the only option would be a glamour spell that just makes your weapon invisible.
    Pretty much this. Emperor's new staff/rod/tome, and viola, casting without a weapon. Could maybe be done with a star globe, but that would just seem weird, and rapier probably wouldn't be done just because it has attacks with require holding a rapier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Lore wise it wouldn't work either, as Disciples of Magic (with the possible exception of ACN and it's Jobs), use their weapon to focus the aether that powers their spells as a conduit. More so, the weapon actually is part of the casting; thaumaturgury spells are powered through the gemstone that all THM and BLM weapons are encrusted with, and Conjury requires a staff or wand "made of unworked wood" to help channel the natural aether from the environment as well as then focus that conjuration in the form of a spell. Arcanima uses arcane geometry written within the caster's grimoire to evoke spells like summoning Carbuncle (this is why they actually hold their grimoire in front of them and literally fire the spell out of the book).

    So lore wise, this prohibits "casting from the hand", hence why this just is not possible I'm afraid (to say nothing of having to change the casting animations as others have said).
    I get the lore, but at the same time, plenty of WHM weapons have been implemented that are clearly not made of wood (and this drives me nuts because, as a SMN, I always wanted a staff). It feels like they're really flexible with the lore.

    As far as arcanima, I think the geometry is used as a template for spells. But for carbuncle, they said somewhere it had to do with the geometries within precious stones (the crystalline structure). I don't know if the stone itself is needed for the spell (it was in FFXI, and the Summoner job advanced questline first tasked you with finding a Carbuncle's Ruby), or if written data would suffice.

    But I guess that would depend on the "lore" of being able to commit the geometry to memory, or if the geometry inscribed in aether-charged ink is needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Lore wise it wouldn't work either, as Disciples of Magic (with the possible exception of ACN and it's Jobs), use their weapon to focus the aether that powers their spells as a conduit. More so, the weapon actually is part of the casting; thaumaturgury spells are powered through the gemstone that all THM and BLM weapons are encrusted with, and Conjury requires a staff or wand "made of unworked wood" to help channel the natural aether from the environment as well as then focus that conjuration in the form of a spell. Arcanima uses arcane geometry written within the caster's grimoire to evoke spells like summoning Carbuncle (this is why they actually hold their grimoire in front of them and literally fire the spell out of the book).

    So lore wise, this prohibits "casting from the hand", hence why this just is not possible I'm afraid (to say nothing of having to change the casting animations as others have said).
    Technically....

    Glamor is just layering the appearance over another item...
    Thus, the real item would still be there even with an invisible glamor...
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