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  1. #31
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    Silverquick's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    Complaining about footage from a month+ old build where they constantly stressed that the numbers if nothing else are liable to change before the xpac ever released. Ok..
    Well right now you better hope so... because what you're actually looking at in that video is level 60 damage coming from a level 70 character...

    And that's not a good thing my friend. It bears out the mega nerf the Tooltips were showing.

    Right now we're all hoping the Tooltips are a complete mistake... OR at the very least they change their minds prior to launch...
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  2. #32
    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Rastiana Bel'briar
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    Malboro
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    Samurai Lv 90
    The best part to me is the whole i275 vs i290 gear argument... like i290 is going to be the level 70 gear cap... 370 is more like it.... as for the damage my SMN has like 245 gears with no materia and can still drop 6k crits with ruin 3... deathflare crit for over 10k so I'm wondering what master summoner silverquick is doing wrong for his damage to be so low...
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  3. #33
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Let me tell ya: crit < 1k, not enough ss for the extra trance ruin but piety melts and piety Anima for 1k more mp cause that's meta for ruin spam out of trance... :3
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    Last edited by Neela; 06-13-2017 at 04:37 AM.

  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    The best part to me is the whole i275 vs i290 gear argument... like i290 is going to be the level 70 gear cap... 370 is more like it.... as for the damage my SMN has like 245 gears with no materia and can still drop 6k crits with ruin 3... deathflare crit for over 10k so I'm wondering what master summoner silverquick is doing wrong for his damage to be so low...
    That was OUTSIDE of Trance my friend... and without Echo and Bard song...

    The guy in the video can't even achieve 3900 on a Ruin 3 Crit INSIDE of Trance... at 70th level.... when anyone currently easily achieve a 4700 crit OUTSIDE of Trance.

    And apparently you seem to think you're going to be any different when Ruin 3 is nerfed into the ground like that.

    Look man, I know right now you're just trying to defend Neela right now and stuff... so I get that you're going to lie and exaggerate. But this is much bigger than that. And it will affect you... and all Summoners.
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  5. #35
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Dancer Lv 90
    noone is protecting me - they just are telling the truth because they know what they are talking about... it's indeed poor that you don't get it even other objective opinions show your lack in knowledge...

    It's getting awkward... even for me.
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    Last edited by Neela; 06-13-2017 at 05:21 AM.

  6. #36
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    Look Neela, I already know you probably got a couple people from your FC to defend you. But I'm overlooking that at present.

    .....any Summoner who currently plays this job in higher gear levels already knows this Video of the guy at 70th level is only doing level 60 damage... at best.

    Its that bad...
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  7. #37
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    Luciana Wolf
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Everyone's screaming doom and gloom to SMN. It's gonna be real funny if it winds up being the meta caster while they destroy BLM and RDM in savage parses with offensive raid buffs in their kit.

    Reminds me of 2.0 SMN. Everyone was calling it trash until people realized, once the parser started tracking dots correctly, it curb stomped everyone. Then Yoshi-p took thunder away .
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  8. #38
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    Look Neela, I already know you probably got a couple people from your FC to defend you.
    More and more awkward... Okami and i are not even from the same server you idiot xD

    nor anyone from the following list:

    Sephorai - Ultros server - who sadly got AIDS reading your posts.
    Semmi - Gilgamesh server - who proofed that fester isnt nerfed and is still strong for burst dmg.
    Psycofang - Leviathan server - compared smn & blm adjustment in burst dmg.
    vikteren - Excalibur server - saw a vid which showed that Banes tooltip most probably is wrong. (aoe dmg)
    Okami - Malboro server - wants to quit cls just to avoid reading further posts although he makes more dmg than you with 25 ilvl less and no materia melt - what proofs he's way more skilled and your piety build sucks.
    waifu - Gilgamesh server - also tried to make clear that shockwave will provide major extra dmg you still ignore.
    Aristo - Goblin server - also said your whining sucks and lacks in truth. btw got your mount meanwhile?
    Kryzen - Diabolos server - is fucked up cause you started the same BS-nonsense in Blm topics.
    Fyce - Ceberus server - made it clear: time for you to leave this cls and stfu. (poor Blms .__. )

    So they all protect and lie for me (whos playing on Zodiark server) just because of... what?
    Your paranoia is unbelievable insane...

    Oh and maybe you should take a look at Hai Hais google doc if you want to see how theorycrafting actually works instead of spamming your halfthought potecy-calculations which never made a relevant point at all.

    It's not just me but a whole bunch of good smns crossover a large serverscape, who dont get your bs and you still think you are the allmighty master while everybody else is just a fucking lying noob...

    awkward...
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    Last edited by Neela; 06-13-2017 at 11:13 AM.

  9. #39
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightTundra View Post
    Everyone's screaming doom and gloom to SMN. It's gonna be real funny if it winds up being the meta caster while they destroy BLM and RDM in savage parses with offensive raid buffs in their kit.

    Reminds me of 2.0 SMN. Everyone was calling it trash until people realized, once the parser started tracking dots correctly, it curb stomped everyone. Then Yoshi-p took thunder away .
    yay i wont stop laughing if that will happen again. Im curious what Toastbread and other wtjs will say than. ^^
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  10. #40
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    waifugenerator's Avatar
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    Shatotto Totto
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 92
    Ummm I see raid meta being discussed and I think SMN will prolly beat out BLM for a caster spot, since BLM has no utility. (Devotion + contagion)

    (Also I just realized that SMN + PLD might be a good combo since PLD can spam their magic dmg Fell Cleave equivalent during contagion windows)
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