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    Quote Originally Posted by OcieKo View Post
    Hes referring to Dark Matter here. The stuff for crafter reqd, repair anywhere.

    Pretty sure its possible to use Grade 6 on anything, but ll test again, i usually only use it for emergencies and breaking in instances.
    Why would you only use it for emergencies? Its the cheapest way to repair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Why would you only use it for emergencies? Its the cheapest way to repair.
    Kinda sshocked you can't read the implied meaning but whatever.

    He knows you can use the higher grades on lower stuff, well at least suspect it because he does not do it often. If you use a higher grade then required, it cost more then the NPC, hence " i usually only use it for emergencies"

    I am a bit conflicted how to address the matter thing. Repairs are too cheap. we need more gil dumps in general, but making a high cost single matter is unfair for the low level stuff, they would need to up the npc repair cost. I only put the 1 catalyst thing in the topic because if they can't do anything at least do that because we need less items to deal with in general.
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  3. #473
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    Kinda sshocked you can't read the implied meaning but whatever.

    He knows you can use the higher grades on lower stuff, well at least suspect it because he does not do it often. If you use a higher grade then required, it cost more then the NPC, hence " i usually only use it for emergencies"
    Except thats not what they said. They said they only use it for emergencies and breaking in instances, which implies that they use the NPC even for lvl 60 gear outside of emergencies. That is more expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Except thats not what they said. They said they only use it for emergencies and breaking in instances, which implies that they use the NPC even for lvl 60 gear outside of emergencies. That is more expensive.
    When it comes to repairing lower gear with grade 6, god you like to pick a fight with anything don't you? HE NEVER said he views ALL repairing that way, he is talking about repairing lower gear with grade 6 matter, that's the whole subject of the post. You reading it wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    When it comes to repairing lower gear with grade 6, god you like to pick a fight with anything don't you?
    I didn't pick a fight, you said I didn't understand what they said, and I responded without any ill intent, giving my reasoning. Why do you have to make that a fight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    When it comes to repairing lower gear with grade 6, god you like to pick a fight with anything don't you? HE NEVER said he views ALL repairing that way, he is talking about repairing lower gear with grade 6 matter, that's the whole subject of the post. You reading it wrong.
    Said the "master" to the "apprentice"...
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    And yes, I do repair my 60 gear at menders usually, dont really like having to refill stocks of Dark Matter. I keep a stack of T5 and T6, the gil cost of either dark matter or mender fees is negligible. I play tanks and healers so a near broken is covered by my start of the day roulette gil. But when I forget for awhile, the oh snap, stuffs breaking mid fight, I like having it. And in a forum about inventory soace, the idea of holding a few stacks of the same thing is a bit... Counterproductive? If saving a few hundred gil was worth it to people, youd see less jokes about aetheryte tickets and more people doing hunts to get them. Even if I repair my 60 gear with gil, i still probably spend more gil a day leaving idyllshire than anything else. Unkess they made a system from scratch typing the cost to highest character level, asking for one of those would be horrible for all but about T3/4. Too expensive for newbies, too cheap to be a gil sink for high levels. Albiet I find self repairing to be more of a vet tendency than a newbie one due to most chars needing at least 4 crafts of comparable level to their adventuring level. And most people would need 6, ACN/SCH/SMN being the main requirer of ALC, and CUL serving no purpose for repairs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OcieKo View Post
    And yes, I do repair my 60 gear at menders usually, dont really like having to refill stocks of Dark Matter. I keep a stack of T5 and T6, the gil cost of either dark matter or mender fees is negligible. I play tanks and healers so a near broken is covered by my start of the day roulette gil. But when I forget for awhile, the oh snap, stuffs breaking mid fight, I like having it. And in a forum about inventory soace, the idea of holding a few stacks of the same thing is a bit... Counterproductive? If saving a few hundred gil was worth it to people, youd see less jokes about aetheryte tickets and more people doing hunts to get them. Even if I repair my 60 gear with gil, i still probably spend more gil a day leaving idyllshire than anything else. Unkess they made a system from scratch typing the cost to highest character level, asking for one of those would be horrible for all but about T3/4. Too expensive for newbies, too cheap to be a gil sink for high levels. Albiet I find self repairing to be more of a vet tendency than a newbie one due to most chars needing at least 4 crafts of comparable level to their adventuring level. And most people would need 6, ACN/SCH/SMN being the main requirer of ALC, and CUL serving no purpose for repairs.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    When it comes to repairing lower gear with grade 6, god you like to pick a fight with anything don't you? HE NEVER said he views ALL repairing that way, he is talking about repairing lower gear with grade 6 matter, that's the whole subject of the post. You reading it wrong.
    Oh look, the person said the do normally repair at the npc. I guess you were wrong, I probably wont get an apology though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Oh look, the person said the do normally repair at the npc. I guess you were wrong, I probably wont get an apology though.
    His statement was correct at the time tho, and my response was towards using T6 Dark Matter, which is what he commented on you ignoring, on gear where the recommended is a lower grade.

    Also I pretty much never use Grade 6 on sub lvl 60 gear, i pretty much repair every time I change jobs, and I rarely spree any sub level capped job long enough without em to warrant it. But alas, in a forum anout space efficiency, using dark matter is quite inventory space expensive, whether 1 tier for all or 6 or 7 tiers.

    And you commented that the bad part if it was more expensive, if maybe 3k gil is expensive to you... I dont think using Dark Matter boughten from a vendor is helping. Maybe if you just used company seals to get your stockpile.

    With how cheap vendor repairs are the dark matter space consumption is more valuable for emergencies than it is for everyday repairs.
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    Well owning a house, and some junk monger in idyllshire makes it easy just walk up to the npc and buy the matter you need. I wish it would tell you the totals when you attempt to repair something when using different gear level gear. You need to buy the lowest matter possible or you do not save money.
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