Tanks and healers.

[Seoulstar]

[Jhett_Magnum]

Here I'm praying SE reconsider war, we don't only lose ton of skill an utility but also a penalty for stance dancing.(the game punish you by using the stacks you need to use your skills)
I'm gonna give it a go but I just don't feel exited about the job anymore.
Been a war since 1.0 an never feel this way about it, not even in 2.0 xD.

You guys had your damn limelight for 2 years. Take a breather.

[Elim]

...Did you really have to open this can of worms with yet another thread?

I mean it's fine to say you want stance dancing to stay for tanks, but... you loaded this in the worst way possible.

Until healing has more uptime/less time for DPSing I don't think these threads will ever stop.

Im going to guess once SB hits we'll see even more threads on the subject. Because while DPSing as a healer will be easier than ever, there will be more pressure than ever to DPS. Anti DPSers will be up in arms.

[FallenWings]

You guys had your damn limelight for 2 years. Take a breather.

Because it makes sense to make one tank OP per expansion and cripple the other two instead of y'know, balancing all three?

[Maliki_Ozari]

I'm happy that you enjoy stance dancing. I do not. I've played a healer since the game released (on and off, I take breaks here and there) and the thing that turns me off the most is stance dancing. It's not because I don't want to dps, I have no problem throwing out some damage as I like to contribute the most I can. My problem is that toggling CS just feels clunky and awkward.

[dragorian]

...Did you really have to open this can of worms with yet another thread?

I mean it's fine to say you want stance dancing to stay for tanks, but... you loaded this in the worst way possible.

Me totally as whm

[SpiritMuse]

I have no problem throwing out some damage as I like to contribute the most I can. My problem is that toggling CS just feels clunky and awkward.

I feel the same. I don't dps a whole lot as healer because the CS toggle is very awkward and I can't always trust it to work properly. At least as AST I have the cards to play with in my downtime.

[DamianTenbe]

My whole point is that I'm fine you don't want to stance dance but don't take away that possibility from me. I feel that you can play however you like but forcing some set playstyle isn't something that I like. Pretty much I get less options on how to approach the game. Stance dance isn't maybe something that great for healers since its only 1 button and not much change at all but tanks lost a lot at this point.

[Makeda]

If I wanted to play DPS I would play DPS.

I prefer if it content is designed to give me a suitable challenge within the roles I have chosen. Which happens to be both tank (on this cat) and healer (on an au'ra).

I'm not so happy that DPS are so poor at their jobs that I am expected to cover their slack, nor that content is easy enough that I have the slack, or at higher content than I reached am expected to still have that slack, to be able to do this while they watch Netflix or whatever it is that keeps them from being capable...

[Hamada]

My whole point is that I'm fine you don't want to stance dance but don't take away that possibility from me. I feel that you can play however you like but forcing some set playstyle isn't something that I like. Pretty much I get less options on how to approach the game. Stance dance isn't maybe something that great for healers since its only 1 button and not much change at all but tanks lost a lot at this point.

I think people are just blaming cleric stance, and not he bad coding itself is why you are getting this result. Cleric stance is not the only thing that fails when you click on something, all abilities are like that because the coding is bad. However click misfires leading to wipe tends to be cleric stance more often then not, so people point fingers on the surface issue.

Personally I dislike the idea of changing an ability because of bad coding, how come everything else does not get that treatment? I also view having a consistent concept, like tanks use tank stance they take less damage, deal less damage, so if you want to deal damage as healer, you heal less in that stance. Basically I fear too much a DPS loss changing cleric stance but we will not know for sure till we can play it.

If I wanted to play DPS I would play DPS.

I prefer if it content is designed to give me a suitable challenge within the roles I have chosen. Which happens to be both tank (on this cat) and healer (on an au'ra).

I'm not so happy that DPS are so poor at their jobs that I am expected to cover their slack, nor that content is easy enough that I have the slack, or at higher content than I reached am expected to still have that slack, to be able to do this while they watch Netflix or whatever it is that keeps them from being capable...

Game is too complex, you be shocked on the DPS difference on the same job just because of slight differences of what order do things in, when to use abilities, and so on.

For the expecting you dps because of bad dps, I do not get why that is said. Healers should dps in this game because there is nothing else to do, it is just expecting the try and same effort. Healer will dps with 2.8k DPS-dps? or DPS with 1.2K DPS (plz brig 'DD' back, saying DPS -DPS is a mess, are tanks DMS? healer HPS?)