Red Mage AoE

[NovaLevossida]

I think we are arguing two different things. I am not talking about complexity. I know SMN has more complex and interesting to do AOE. I am talking ease of use and spamability. You can't spam SMN AOE. You can RDM. RDM AOE might be boring, but at least it has no set up and you can spam it as long as your mana holds out.

I guess I don't get the point. The "setup" isn't complicated or hard to get going, so I don't see the contrast between that and Death Blossom spam as anything relevant.

Except NIN will have Hellfrog and TCJ(SKD) now... soooooooo

Yeah. That's why I made sure I used past tense when talking about NIN. They got some nice changes to not be as boring as they used to be.

[Arkenne]

That's why I used past tense.

Whops, my bad. Well, sadly both of those are gated behind the same resource which is kinda troublesome to build up anyway so it may not be THAT different.

[NovaLevossida]

Whops, my bad. Well, sadly both of those are gated behind the same resource which is kinda troublesome to build up anyway so it may not be THAT different.

Nah, no problem. I'll get around to trying 4.0 NIN at some point.