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  1. #11
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    EdwinLi's Avatar
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    Edwin Li
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    Machinist Lv 100
    The real question is...

    Do you want to be Verpopular?
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  2. #12
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    Derek Skyshadow
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Threads like this make me hate the community. Instead of wasting your time healing try and actually kill the mobs. Dead mobs wont anyone. Your job is to do damage. Take physick off your bar.

    Any mana you have spare should be used on ruin 3 anyways.
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  3. #13
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    It may be changed by now but if not I'd say RDM would be a decent backup healer if need be.
    https://youtu.be/-6JjsyqDqKI?t=8m25s
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    Last edited by AlphaFox; 06-09-2017 at 06:58 AM.

  4. #14
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    Dijana's Avatar
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    Dijana Menatas
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    Zurvan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    SMN should never 'offheal', the dps you're not doing because you were spending it casting physick would be more important- you get the fight done faster. The only reason ACN, and therefore SMN, has physick is so that if SCH syncs down below 30 for content it still has a form of healing. It's scaled off MND and is worthless for SMN.

    RDM I dont know exactly how vercure scales (I've heard it scales off MND, but has traits to help), and in videos you can see it doing 5-6k cures. That's better than physick on SMN, but a dedicated healer should never need to rely on a dps to help cure. It is mainly for an emergency, and most likely to keep with the theme of RDM having access to black and white magic. If you ever end up in a group as any DPS where the healers are mad at you for not helping to heal, that is entirely their own fault.

    Now, if healers are dead, or low on mp, or most of the party is dead, you absolutely should help them raise people. Thats as far as your support should go as SMN
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  5. #15
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    Jets Down
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    Gilgamesh
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    Anyone else thought of Do you wanna be a snowman(rdm) song? no just me
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  6. #16
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dijana View Post
    a dedicated healer should never need to rely on a dps to help cure.
    Well, a dedicated dps should never need the healer to dps either, but a quick glance over the forums tends to prove otherwise.
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  7. #17
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    Momomi Momi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Well, a dedicated dps should never need the healer to dps either, but a quick glance over the forums tends to prove otherwise.
    Completely different. Healer DPS isn't needed, it's just about the only useful thing a healer can do when healing isn't necessary.
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  8. #18
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    Vice Shark
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Akisohida View Post
    Because Ifrit seems to have more DPS than Garuda and I don't want Titan pulling aggro off the tank?




    Umm..no? That is actually my setup; I was looking for opinions.

    I do heal because the Healer is usually a friend in Discord. If he starts flagging, I pop a heal..a band-aid.
    If the Tank loses aggro (we get BAD tanks) and healing makes WHM a threat, he can keep moving to avoid being attacked & I can heal him until Tank re-pulls aggro.
    Because if the Healer stops to heal & dies, we all die.
    To add to Vidu's post about the summons, Ifrit has far less survivability than Garuda simply cuz its a melee smn that not only can't get out of melee target aoes (unless you command it) but also since tanks have to move bosses around at times, that means ifrit most likely won't get into a proper position and that means getting cleaved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  9. #19
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    It may be changed by now but if not I'd say RDM would be a decent backup healer if need be.
    https://youtu.be/-6JjsyqDqKI?t=8m25s
    while rdm heal is still "good" and used probably once in a blue moon to save their sorry !$!$! , a rdm that is tossing heals is wasting the party time , 1 GCD wasted on vercure even if it dualcasted , is losing damage , if the healers dies u can toss a vercure on tank and rez the healer instantly , but outside that and incoming aoe unavoidable dmg while boss goes inmune (and u use vercure to heal u and proc dualcast ) , oh and soloing i guess :/
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    Dynamo Malevolti
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    Sargatanas
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    The real question is...

    Do you want to be Verpopular?
    I'll teach you the proper verploys when you talk to verboys, little ways to verflirt and verflounce!
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