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  1. #851
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
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    I shouldn't be surprised. Why are you healing a tank who has 99% of their health? You do realize the vast majority of your Cures were literally worthless, yes? That Dark Knight had 30,000 HP. A healer of any kind there is a complete waste of MP, especially since Asylum and Regen can handle it. All you've done now is demonstrate for us all what we already knew: you have no idea how to heal efficiently. So kindly stop lecturing everyone.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 06-08-2017 at 11:33 AM.

  2. #852
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    Seoulstar's Avatar
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    Suzuko Seki
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    So you're dense. When people are saying AFK healing, they're not literally AFK and they are healing... when it's required (Read as: a few times).
    So I'm dense for simply misunderstanding, glad we got that settled~

    Edit: I also realized I got myself dragged into this yet again..now I see why this goes on forever.
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  3. #853
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Ha ha ha.
    I was so right with when I said non-dps healer don't even heal correctly.

    And then they even want to teach us how the game works now and what we should do.
    GUYS this is terrible.

    All you knew until now was a lie! Take advices from those 100% healer, they are the best.
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  4. #854
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    Misutoraru's Avatar
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    This does not put the same effort as the other 2 roles, You ask more from your DPS then tank/healer, why?

    Also here is a link for everyone to solve this pure healer vs DPS healer once in for all:
    https://youtu.be/SQoA_wjmE9w?t=21
    it is not asking more, it is the job

    Tank job, basic is to keep aggro, position correctly and use CD at right time

    Healer job is to keep everyone alive, prepare for big heal, remove debuff

    DPS job is to maximize their output

    DPS using 1,1,1 is like Heal giving only cure I, not removing debuff or tank using 1 skill to build aggro and not using def CD

    eventually it is just a point of view, how to define their role, you can have your view, he could have his, and she have hers

    there are no ending, no right or wrong

    again, if player have requirement for specific role, a premade party is always an option

    I do welcome tank who dance, healer who put out DPS, dps who use utility, but when i queue DF, i have my expectation on the minimum requirement
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    Last edited by Misutoraru; 06-08-2017 at 11:35 AM.

  5. #855
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    akaneakki's Avatar
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    Liza Sol
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
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    I shouldn't be surprised. Why are you healing a tank who has 99% of their health? You do realize the vast majority of your Cures were literally worthless, yes? That Dark Knight had 30,000 HP. A healer there is a complete waste of MP, especially since Asylum and Regen can handle it. All you've done now is demonstrate for us all what we already knew: you have no idea how to heal efficiently. So kindly stop lecturing everyone.
    link No regen, cure 2 spam, no asylum and no assize.
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  6. #856
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
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    I shouldn't be surprised. Why are you healing a tank who has 99% of their health? .
    None of you had enough time to watch it. So please, I posted it knowing full well the trolls would use it as ammo, but felt that nobody had posted any video of people having fun.

    (0)
    Last edited by KisaiTenshi; 06-08-2017 at 11:34 AM.

  7. #857
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    Greedalox's Avatar
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    None of you had enough time to watch it.
    Did you magically become competent after 3 mins in?
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  8. #858
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    That didn't come out of nowhere.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ler-cast-regen (note 2013)
    How weird, my tanks never loose aggro when I use my Regen on them.
    Something must be wrong with the game...
    I probably shouldn't use Shroud of Saint at the same time as Medica II as well.

    Remember your videos your posted?
    Regen, Asylyum and you used some cure ! Healing while there are hots active are generating more aggro than if let regen do the work on their own.

    Why are you quoting a post of aggro modifier you don't ever apply or understand.

    please...
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  9. #859
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Seoulstar View Post
    I'm not disregarding nor am I dense. If the other person comment was an exaggeration then I take my comment back.
    It was an exageration.

    What they mean by "afk healer" is a healer whose activity time is so low that the other players in the team are actually doing two to four times more button pressing.
    The "afk healer" isn't doing "nothing" per se, s/he's monitoring player's HP to throw a heal at the very moment they are uncomfortable with the look of their teammate HP bar. Most "pure healer" cast a heal when someone lacks 5-10%HP (generating a good amount of overheal in the process). It's the same exageration when people say that these healers are watching netflix or whatever. It's actually not the case (at least, not in a general meaning) and everyone knows it. But their activity time is so low that people started making jokes about the fact that "they must be doing something else, right? No one can remain inactive/passive during these long periods of time without doing something else in at the same time, can they?"

    These healers players are bad. Most of their time is spent staring at some gauges that barely move.
    So, what people are asking is that these players start to capitalize on that time these healers spend doing mostly nothing, and throw some damage skills in there. Especially since Stormblood will make that a really easy thing to do.

    That's all there is to it. Really.
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  10. #860
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    link No regen, cure 2 spam, no asylum and no assize.
    /cries

    It got worse! I stopped after the first two pulls. I would so annoyed on DRK because sh'e liable to rip aggro if you drop tank stance with the amount of overhealing, especially if there's Medica II spamming.
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