XIV on Switch and Xbox

[Amnesiac]

@Tonkra - I don't know what you based your assumptions on my "logic" about, but you need to chill out my dude. Square wants to move forward with their MMO, thus it wouldn't make sense to place the game on a mobile platform like the Switch, nor would it make much sense to have FFXIV on the Xbox One with the Scorpio project launching this holiday season. I realize the Xbox One and PS4 are the same gen; I play on both platforms. I wouldn't be surprised if, in the next 5-10 years, PS4 support is dropped so the game can expand even further. Do you think a game like World of Warcraft could be played on consoles? I mean, come on, people.

[Kosmos992k]

Aye right... that makes the Switch obviously slower than a PS3 with 256 MB RAM... not..

And even its Tegra X1 graphics core is the more powerful GPU

No. The GPU on the SoC used for the Switch is not more powerful, the number of units it actually contains is relatively low, and unless you are only quoting the half precision FLOP numbers which are special case measures of performance, not general measures of GPU performance, the Switch GPU is not more powerful. Yes, it's a much more recent architecture than RSX, but the raw numbers are not on your side on this one. Relatively speaking switch is approximately as powerful as a PS3, but comparing like with like shows the false nature of most comparisons made. For the PS3 you need to factor in the single precision FP capability of the Cell BE in addition to the capability of the RSX (which was intended to supplement the RSX), and for the Switch you need to ignore the half precision performance numbers because they are not generally applicable and focus instead on the Single precision performance.

[Kyuuen]

Aye right... that makes the Switch obviously slower than a PS3 with 256 MB RAM... not..

And even its Tegra X1 graphics core is the more powerful GPU

I'd hate to break it to you, but the Switch and the PS3 have the exact same Memory Bandwidth at 25.6 Gbps despite the Switch having more memory. It's not just about how much memory you have, but also the speeds that memory is running.

Pound for pound, the Switch might pull ahead of a PS3 a bit, but is by no means comparable to PS4 or Xbox One let alone the Pro or a PC. We're dropping a bad system for the game, no sense in picking up another bad system for the game.

[Kosmos992k]

I'd hate to break it to you, but the Switch and the PS3 have the exact same Memory Bandwidth at 25.6 Gbps despite the Switch having more memory. It's not just about how much memory you have, but also the speeds that memory is running.

Pound for pound, the Switch might pull ahead of a PS3 a bit, but is by no means comparable to PS4 or Xbox One let alone the Pro or a PC. We're dropping a bad system for the game, no sense in picking up another bad system for the game.

there's an incredibly practical demonstration of the fact that Switch is on par with PS3 and 360. Fifa 18 is releasing, and the switch version is the same as that on PS3 and 360, the PS4/Xbox One version uses a different engine (Frostbite) and has more content and features. Unfortunately this demonstrates what many are suggesting, that Switch is in effect the WiiU that should have been, and is of that generation in performance terms.

[enthauptet]

nor would it make much sense to have FFXIV on the Xbox One with the Scorpio project launching this holiday season. I realize the Xbox One and PS4 are the same gen; I play on both platforms. I wouldn't be surprised if, in the next 5-10 years, PS4 support is dropped so the game can expand even further.

The Xbox One already got upgraded from Windows 8 to Windows 10 so the new one will just be another hardware update, the base OS will more than likely be essentially the same so actually it would be pretty worthwhile to develop for it since it shares a similar platform with a regular desktop pc (essentially).

It is funny how people say Sony is more open with SE than MS is, but MS is waaaaay more open with their console development platorm than Sony has ever been. (development and business deals are separate but this always struck me as kind of funny)

[Kyuuen]

there's an incredibly practical demonstration of the fact that Switch is on par with PS3 and 360. Fifa 18 is releasing, and the switch version is the same as that on PS3 and 360, the PS4/Xbox One version uses a different engine (Frostbite) and has more content and features. Unfortunately this demonstrates what many are suggesting, that Switch is in effect the WiiU that should have been, and is of that generation in performance terms.

I'll have to check that out. I was relying mostly on Tech details and the fact that the Switch being new(er) in architecture that it might pull ahead of PS3 in some areas.

[Kosmos992k]

The Xbox One already got upgraded from Windows 8 to Windows 10 so the new one will just be another hardware update, the base OS will more than likely be essentially the same so actually it would be pretty worthwhile to develop for it since it shares a similar platform with a regular desktop pc (essentially).

It is funny how people say Sony is more open with SE than MS is, but MS is waaaaay more open with their console development platorm than Sony has ever been.

Seriously? ROTFLMAO!

[Kosmos992k]

I'll have to check that out. I was relying mostly on Tech details and the fact that the Switch being new(er) in architecture that it might pull ahead of PS3 in some areas.

It does, but it falls slightly behind in others. The much larger memory pool compensates for most of that making it a wash, Switch is about as powerful as the PS3 with the benefits of also having a more modern GPU architecture and much more memory. Overall, though, they are similar in terms of the results on screen. I was surprised by the FIFA 18 stuff, I only heard about it this week.

[enthauptet]

Seriously? ROTFLMAO!

Do you just sit around and troll?

[Kosmos992k]

Do you just sit around and troll?

Do you? Calling Microsoft open is like suggesting that the KGB is a force for world peace.