Yoshi P to Mr.Happy "Heal DPS is not mandatory and no expectation for Healer to DPS!"

[Arkdra]

And here we go "it depends on the content" thanks so much for saying that! So now we have established that a healer DPSing is only circumstantial, what if said content is too much for the healer to cleric stance swap and they feel more comfortable healing? Seriously folks, this whole thing can be easily fixed. Make your own group and don't use the DF if you're going to be so picky about how others play!

Well, depends on content means I cut healers a lot of slack in content I haven't personally healed in because I don't have a basis for true judgement and I cut them 0 slack in content that I have healed in. So far the content that I've personally healed in all had room for dps, even when I get utterly terrible dps or tanks.

More to the point, why is it that I have to be the one to make a group? Make your own sloggy pos group if that's the experience you are after.

[TamurilRains]

Well, depends on content means I cut healers a lot of slack in content I haven't personally healed in because I don't have a basis for true judgement and I cut them 0 slack in content that I have healed in. So far the content that I've personally healed in all had room for dps, even when I get utterly terrible dps or tanks.

More to the point, why is it that I have to be the one to make a group? Make your own sloggy pos group if that's the experience you are after.

Because I don't mind playing with impatient people like you, or people who take their time. However you seem to care so much about how others play as if your very life depends on it, if you don't like it then don't gamble? The tool is there to fix your problem, not my fault if you insist on not using it and still try to force your style onto others.

[Arkdra]

Because I don't mind playing with impatient people like you, or people who take their time. However you seem to care so much about how others play as if your very life depends on it, if you don't like it then don't gamble? The tool is there to fix your problem, not my fault if you insist on not using it and still try to force your style onto others.

Well the tool to fix the problem is to vote kick them, actually.

[TamurilRains]

Well the tool to fix the problem is to vote kick them, actually.

Thanks! I'll be sure to remember that next time I'm in a group with someone who whines about "dead weight" you know all that energy whining about other people's playstyles could be put to use actually doing your role, which of course is damage and a ninja no less....I rest my case.

[Arkdra]

Thanks! I'll be sure to remember that next time I'm in a group with someone who whines about "dead weight" you know all that energy whining about other people's playstyles could be put to use actually doing your role, which of course is damage and a ninja no less....I rest my case.

What case? What fanciful scenario have you constructed? I don't complain in party chat, that's a huge waste of time. I will say, "we're not taking that much damage, can you please consider adding some damage?" and then if they don't the votekick silently goes out and I've yet to have one fail.

But I also don't actually end up having to vote kick a lot of people. As it turns out most healers dps once you get above level 30 and I give people under that the benefit of the doubt and just assume they are new and carry them on my strong dps back.

[Khemorex]

What case? What fanciful scenario have you constructed? I don't complain in party chat, that's a huge waste of time. I will say, "we're not taking that much damage, can you please consider adding some damage?" and then if they don't the votekick silently goes out and I've yet to have one fail.

But I also don't actually end up having to vote kick a lot of people. As it turns out most healers dps once you get above level 30 and I give people under that the benefit of the doubt and just assume they are new and carry them on my strong dps back.

shame im not in that group , or id make sure to vote kick u afterwards :P

[TamurilRains]

What case? What fanciful scenario have you constructed? I don't complain in party chat, that's a huge waste of time. I will say, "we're not taking that much damage, can you please consider adding some damage?" and then if they don't the votekick silently goes out and I've yet to have one fail.

But I also don't actually end up having to vote kick a lot of people. As it turns out most healers dps once you get above level 30 and I give people under that the benefit of the doubt and just assume they are new and carry them on my strong dps back.

Sorry I'm bored and you seem like fun. Plus you seem to have this god complex I find very fascinating. Please continue.

Side note: You say you don't complain, yet you stated you will say "Yo, you're healing us amazingly well, so could you deal damage?" and if they don't comply you will vote kick them. If the run was going fine, you were getting heals and the damage was enough for the content, why are you votekicking them? Is the few seconds saved per fight that valuable to you? Then perhaps you shouldn't be playing an MMO, especially if you have no patience for people and insist everything be done your way or not at all.

[Arkdra]

Side note: You say you don't complain, yet you stated you will say "Yo, you're healing us amazingly well, so could you deal damage?" and if they don't comply you will vote kick them. If the run was going fine, you were getting heals and the damage was enough for the content, why are you votekicking them? Is the few seconds saved per fight that valuable to you?

It's sad you don't value your own time or the time of others.

Setting that aside, yeah, I'll take a healer that dps's and we wipe a time or 2 over one that heals flawlessly with 0 dps basically every time. I do not value your capability to fill a bar every 15 seconds particularly highly. If for no other reason than at least the healer who does damage is actually putting forth an effort which is something I do value.