Yoshi P to Mr.Happy "Heal DPS is not mandatory and no expectation for Healer to DPS!"

[Arkdra]

So a healer is expected to not only heal the DPS who stand in crap they shouldn't be standing in, but also to deal damage in order to make up for the lack of DPS those people are essentially not producing?

I expect healers to do something with most of their gcd's, same as I would a dps or tank. This claim that healing is all the work a healer needs to do is spurious because it can require so little of your actual attention depending on what content you are doing.

[TamurilRains]

I expect healers to do something with most of their gcd's, same as I would a dps or tank. This claim that healing is all the work a healer needs to do is spurious because it can require so little of your actual attention depending on what content you are doing.

And here we go "it depends on the content" thanks so much for saying that! So now we have established that a healer DPSing is only circumstantial, what if said content is too much for the healer to cleric stance swap and they feel more comfortable healing? Seriously folks, this whole thing can be easily fixed. Make your own group and don't use the DF if you're going to be so picky about how others play!

[Alysrea]

And here we go "it depends on the content" thanks so much for saying that! So now we have established that a healer DPSing is only circumstantial, what if said content is too much for the healer to cleric stance swap and they feel more comfortable healing? Seriously folks, this whole thing can be easily fixed. Make your own group and don't use the DF if you're going to be so picky about how others play!

They are removing the requirement to have cleric stance active to be able to DPS, you will be able to do DPS and heal with no problems come storm blood, they are making quality of life changes so people CAN be more comfortable.
That being said in any circumstance trying it is the only way to actually get comfortable and if you resign yourself to never trying you are doing the other people you are playing with a diservice by not trying to give all you can.

[kattzkitti]

Moreover, the argument can go both ways. Want to have your own long expert roulette filled with people playing sub-optimally? Form your own party.

Except it doesn't. When you hit the queue up button in Duty Finder without a full premade group, you implicitly agree to the condition that you accept randoms and their playstyles into your duty. Period.

Except it is a rather common strategy to pull everything and then AoE them to oblivion to speed up runs. I am playing the game for what it is. Even right now in dungeons, I do mass pulls. Why? Because I legitimately enjoy it, it's my preferred play style as a tank, and it is more efficient. With the former two reasons being the main argument for Healers only healing. There's no difference other than I have the added reason of wanting to be efficient.

My comment was to show how easy it is to reverse the logic behind so many of these Healers only heal arguments.

Context and intent. Learn what these are, and then go back and re-read your post.

[missybee]

you implicitly agree to the condition that you accept randoms and their playstyles into your duty. Period.

So you are failing to see that can go both ways?

[kattzkitti]

So you are failing to see that can go both ways?

Why am I not surprised that you can't comprehend such a simple concept.

[missybee]

Why am I not surprised that you can't comprehend such a simple concept.

Probably because, for some reason, you have a 'holier than thou' opinion of yourself despite the fact that it seems 0% deserved.

[Alysrea]

Except it doesn't. When you hit the queue up button in Duty Finder without a full premade group, you implicitly agree to the condition that you accept randoms and their playstyles into your duty. Period.

No you don't at all, I know you are not new to this forum and I know you have read other posts in this thread and seen the pictures. GM's have stated in game many times to players Being kicked for having a differing playstyle is 100% valid, So no clicking accept to the duty does not conform you to THEIR playstyle, YOU are agreeing to conform to the GROUPS playstyle not any ONE individual , and if ONE person say the HEALER doesn't want to do DPS when everyone else wants them to, bai bai healer because you are not contributing to the agreed strategy of the majority of your group.

[kattzkitti]

No you don't at all, I know you are not new to this forum and I know you have read other posts in this thread and seen the pictures. GM's have stated in game many times to players Being kicked for having a differing playstyle is 100% valid, So no clicking accept to the duty does not conform you to THEIR playstyle, YOU are agreeing to conform to the GROUPS playstyle not any ONE individual

"Yoshi is fallible."
"You can't take what a dev says as gospel."

"This GM says differing playstyles is legitimate reason to kick, so anyone can be kicked anytime for any reason!"

I am amused. Please, continue perpetuating the DPS stereotype.

Probably because, for some reason, you have a 'holier than thou' opinion of yourself despite the fact that it seems 0% deserved.

Personal attacks, the go-to action for someone who can't bring anything to the table.

[missybee]

Personal attacks, the go-to action for someone who can't bring anything to the table.

Also kattzkitti:

There's a difference between being an asshat, and playing the game for what it is: a video game.

You are being the former.

Context and intent. Learn what these are, and then go back and re-read your post.

Why am I not surprised that you can't comprehend such a simple concept.

Implicitly. Learn the definition of the word and then re-read my post.

I know common sense is a rare trait on the internet, but please, at least try to have some.

This is the moment where you confirm that you are completely incapable of comprehending reality.