Yoshi P to Mr.Happy "Heal DPS is not mandatory and no expectation for Healer to DPS!"

[Baalfrog]

Also, in certain cases the DPS is just so bad, that its actually a DPS loss for the team as a whole for the healer to heal/revive the bad dps...

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Also, in certain cases the DPS is just so bad, that its actually a DPS loss for the team as a whole for the healer to heal/revive the bad dps...

Yup! This is why I mostly play tank. I can just solidify aggro and swap to dps stance unless the healers blank out or something. Always get those healers that almost wipe the group from focusing too hard on deeps though... le sigh.

[Feidam]

Yup! This is why I mostly play tank. I can just solidify aggro and swap to dps stance unless the healers blank out or something. Always get those healers that almost wipe the group from focusing too hard on deeps though... le sigh.

heh, i've quit healing pugs because I constantly get tanks that sit in dps stance trying to tank and not burn cool downs. very annoying.

[Hamada]

Yup! This is why I mostly play tank. I can just solidify aggro and swap to dps stance unless the healers blank out or something. Always get those healers that almost wipe the group from focusing too hard on deeps though... le sigh.

For the most tanks I see, either struggle to hold hate, even have the nerve to tell a quelling strike using blm to stop casting spells because they pull hate from "pressing too many buttons" or tanks that stay in DPS too much making them a sponge.

So what is your point?

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

heh, i've quit healing pugs because I constantly get tanks that sit in dps stance trying to tank and not burn cool downs. very annoying.

Yeah, tanks that don't use CD's are always fun to deal with. Never understood why people don't use them.

So what is your point?

DPSing as a healer is snooze-worthy, aggressive tanking while managing cooldowns and enmity is infinitely more rewarding to me?

Alternatively: RP server.

[Pence]

For the most tanks I see, either struggle to hold hate, even have the nerve to tell a quelling strike using blm to stop casting spells because they pull hate from "pressing too many buttons" or tanks that stay in DPS too much making them a sponge.

So what is your point?

I started to reply with a serious comment....read your name. Nothing what you said is any sort of true. Felicia. Bye.

[Nominous]

YOSHI P STATED AND I QUOTE "I firmly believe that it should not be mandatory(Healers DPSing) and we do not have the expectation for them to dps!" HOW IN THE HECK IS THAT MY OPINION WHEN IT WAS HIS STATEMENT!?!?! That is beyond goofy! Wow!

It was nice that people were so unified underneath YoshiP for a while, but it needs to stop.

Just because he makes a comment doesn't mean that's the end of the conversation. He has to to remain neutral as possible on all things, and this is one of those things. He can't say any playstyle is mandatory, battle OR otherwise.

He also said there's no such thing as a "Correct rotation" in an interview, and that however you want to play should be fine, because you're paying a sub. You didn't (and don't) see DPS coming out the wood-work making threads saying, "We can play how we want, confirmed! He defended my spamming of Blizzard abilities!" It's a silly line of thought, because everyone KNOWS you have more in your kit, and that you could be doing better. This double-standard is what's goofy.

Any healer okay with putting in the bare minimum, making the run longer, should be okay with Tanks never using cooldowns, and DPS never doing AoE.

[Feidam]

I started to reply with a serious comment....read your name. Nothing what you said is any sort of true. Felicia. Bye.

Actually, there are plenty of tanks that do that. Most don't, but most healer don't just stand around either.

[Yahallo]

The only real way to "fix" this whole "Healers SHOULD DPS" is to disable their damaging spells/abilities while they are in a dungeon/raid. Which would make them 100% healer's. The only reason for healers dps would be for open world and solo content. This will never happen of course, disabling of abilities/spells, so the mindset of "Healers WILL DPS or Vote Kick" will remain. Sadly. That is and will always be the way of the community.

Honestly, it is good there is the mentality of "Healers SHOULD DPS" in the community. It means there is a will to try and improve somewhere in the community. The game is designed so that "Healers SHOULD DPS;" they basically say this in the Hall of Novice. It is definitely not intended for healers to only heal; it is only designed for it to be possible for healers to only heal. If they wanted healers to only heal, content would be designed with strict heal checks.

There is no need to "fix" the "Healers SHOULD DPS" mentality. If anything, it should be made more clear that such a style is intended and supported. Just because it isn't mandatory for Healers to DPS, doesn't mean it was not intended for Healers to DPS.

[Zetsumei_Tsunarashi]

If the producer of the game says that he doesn't expect healers to do dps, then he shouldn't design content that has so low of a healing requirement that you can literally do the entire content without leaving cleric stance, or be completely handled by an NPC pet.

If you don't expect healers to do dps, then what do you expect them to do exactly ? They certainly aren't doing much healing.

My 2gils.