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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    Dude you're saying healers should not DPS, you're the man with the wrong opinion here.
    As people said, stop promoting lazyness, we have already too many lazy snowflakes out there
    YOSHI P STATED AND I QUOTE "I firmly believe that it should not be mandatory(Healers DPSing) and we do not have the expectation for them to dps!" HOW IN THE HECK IS THAT MY OPINION WHEN IT WAS HIS STATEMENT!?!?! That is beyond goofy! Wow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    YOSHI P STATED AND I QUOTE "I firmly believe that it should not be mandatory(Healers DPSing) and we do not have the expectation for them to dps!" HOW IN THE HECK IS THAT MY OPINION WHEN IT WAS HIS STATEMENT!?!?! That is beyond goofy! Wow!
    It's your opinion because Mr Yoshida seemingly doesn't now about healers having that 80% downtime and the term carry.
    If the game design was for healer dps to not be required, we would also have incoming damage every gcd and a half, incoming damage that was dangerous btw. Not for 1 person to do nothing for the whole dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    YOSHI P STATED AND I QUOTE "I firmly believe that it should not be mandatory(Healers DPSing) and we do not have the expectation for them to dps!" HOW IN THE HECK IS THAT MY OPINION WHEN IT WAS HIS STATEMENT!?!?! That is beyond goofy! Wow!
    This guy said everything:

    Quote Originally Posted by Erys View Post
    It's your opinion because Mr Yoshida seemingly doesn't now about healers having that 80% downtime and the term carry.
    If the game design was for healer dps to not be required, we would also have incoming damage every gcd and a half, incoming damage that was dangerous btw. Not for 1 person to do nothing for the whole dungeon.
    If you're only healing i should just spam flash as a tank or auto-attack as a dps.
    Imma smash bosses with my book yay !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erys View Post
    It's your opinion because Mr Yoshida seemingly doesn't now about healers having that 80% downtime and the term carry.
    If the game design was for healer dps to not be required, we would also have incoming damage every gcd and a half, incoming damage that was dangerous btw. Not for 1 person to do nothing for the whole dungeon.
    I am not even going to resort to how I view this post....and if I did it come laden with vulgar statements on my opinion on your intelligence with a mixture of views on your observations of facts. You can take what I would say from that context!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    I am not even going to resort to how I view this post....and if I did it come laden with vulgar statements on my opinion on your intelligence with a mixture of views on your observations of facts. You can take what I would say from that context!
    Oh, you would resort to insults to my intelligence because I challenged your views. Just because you take the word of YoshiP as true, a person that is basically enabling one team player to earn the prize without working with the team.
    That'd be your boss giving your paycheck to his son instead and you having no say in it because it would hurt their son's feelings and they would throw a hissy fit and spout bad words at you :c
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    I am not even going to resort to how I view this post....and if I did it come laden with vulgar statements on my opinion on your intelligence with a mixture of views on your observations of facts. You can take what I would say from that context!
    The post you are quoting is correct though, he does not seem to understand or know how much downtime healers really have.

    Would love to see what he says about this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBgM...youtu.be&t=557

    Or the fact how a shield healer manage to outheal a regen healer, while doing more DPS then 2 DPS, a tank, a LB where said LB out damaged the pure healer.

    Pure healers are unskilled is the bottom of things, the reason for this is quite simple. They do not put in effort in remembering scripted fights to know when healing is needed, so they overheal a lot thinking it may be needed at some point. Good healers learn when to DPS and when to heal, this is how DPS healers manage to outheal pure healers to begin with.

    Are you willing to kick out a DPS using just heavy thrust once a minute? because you can clear DFs with that too.
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    Last edited by Hamada; 06-07-2017 at 05:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    YOSHI P STATED AND I QUOTE "I firmly believe that it should not be mandatory(Healers DPSing) and we do not have the expectation for them to dps!" HOW IN THE HECK IS THAT MY OPINION WHEN IT WAS HIS STATEMENT!?!?! That is beyond goofy! Wow!
    It was nice that people were so unified underneath YoshiP for a while, but it needs to stop.

    Just because he makes a comment doesn't mean that's the end of the conversation. He has to to remain neutral as possible on all things, and this is one of those things. He can't say any playstyle is mandatory, battle OR otherwise.

    He also said there's no such thing as a "Correct rotation" in an interview, and that however you want to play should be fine, because you're paying a sub. You didn't (and don't) see DPS coming out the wood-work making threads saying, "We can play how we want, confirmed! He defended my spamming of Blizzard abilities!" It's a silly line of thought, because everyone KNOWS you have more in your kit, and that you could be doing better. This double-standard is what's goofy.

    Any healer okay with putting in the bare minimum, making the run longer, should be okay with Tanks never using cooldowns, and DPS never doing AoE.
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    Last edited by Nominous; 06-08-2017 at 01:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    YOSHI P STATED AND I QUOTE "I firmly believe that it should not be mandatory(Healers DPSing) and we do not have the expectation for them to dps!" HOW IN THE HECK IS THAT MY OPINION WHEN IT WAS HIS STATEMENT!?!?! That is beyond goofy! Wow!
    Because Yoshi does not dictate how we play. Functionality does. The devs also fancy tanks in tank stance and prefer we do smaller pulls. Do we? Nope. Because gameplay allows us to drop stance far more frequently than intended and pull the entire group. In the case of healer DPS, it's more efficiency and faster, thus people expect it when there isn't any healing to be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Because Yoshi does not dictate how we play. Functionality does. The devs also fancy tanks in tank stance and prefer we do smaller pulls. Do we? Nope. Because gameplay allows us to drop stance far more frequently than intended and pull the entire group. In the case of healer DPS, it's more efficiency and faster, thus people expect it when there isn't any healing to be done.
    Truer words have never been spoken, if we actually stuck to what the devs wanted all the time this game would be kinda boring. I couldnt imagine doing three add pulls in shom al hard Id fall asleep.
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