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  1. #171
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    Lunaxia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    lol
    I know a lot more than you, evidently.

    I've never met a user with such a huge discrepancy between post content and username.
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  2. #172
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    Rasylia S'ial
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    Actually, what you're proposing is acceptable is this:

    Tank: Constant aggro maintenance keeping enemies engaged
    DPS: Constant damage output
    Healer: Stands around flinging out a Cure every 30 seconds or so (less if they use regens)

    What decent players expect (and strive for):

    Tank: Constant aggro maintenance
    DPS: Constant damage output
    Healer: Constant casting (if healing is unnecessary, switch to Cleric)

    My Ruin scenario is merely matching the DPS output to the healer's output in the first instance - the output several of you are trying to claim is comparable to the work the tank and DPS do.
    Except for the very fact that what i am "proposing" is what lets you finish the dungeon easily. You do not need the Healer to dps. But its allright, considering all i get is sarcasm and childish responses i will stop arguing with people here. Enjoy beeing a unnecessary jerk towards people because of the fact that you think they are not doing enough / not worthy getting anything because they are not doing enough.

    Also: I NEVER CLAIMED HEALERS ARE DOING EQUAL WORK. NEVER. I repeatedly said that YES Healers can dps to avoid downtime and to help the group. HOWEVER i always stood the point that its optional for people to decide THEMSELF - a right which you take away.
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  3. #173
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    Koda Ko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    We are talking about the fact healers arent demanded to DPS as IT IS optional.
    Yet you ain't responding to my scenario which:
    Tank is spamming flash
    DPS is auto-attacking
    Healer is only healing

    You know, the rest is optionnal, i won't do what YOU want me to do as a tank nor a DPS.
    (How is your logic applied againt you ?)
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  4. #174
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    Yet you ain't responding to my scenario which:
    Tank is spamming flash
    DPS is auto-attacking
    Healer is only healing

    You know, the rest is optionnal, i won't do what YOU want me to do as a tank nor a DPS.
    (How is your logic applied againt you ?)
    we are not talking about tanking or dps as a dsp.

    If you feel that doing flash and auto attacking is as much as you can go good for you but I will ADVICE you to go and seek some help from other people on how to increase you Emity and increase your dps.
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  5. #175
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    Lunaxia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasylia View Post
    pls
    So if healers, in your opinion, aren't doing equal work, why would you not want or expect them to?

    None of you have given any adequate reason whatsoever why a healer shouldn't DPS. If it's optional for them to be as efficient, why is the SMN example any different? What makes healers special snowflakes?
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  6. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    I know a lot more than you, evidently.

    I've never met a user with such a huge discrepancy between post content and username.
    We are talking about the fact healers arent demanded to DPS as IT IS optional. As long as I'm kept alive along my party it's all ok. KICKING them out or forcing them to do what YOU want them to do IS NOT ok.

    If you have NOTHING more to contribute in regards this topic it would be wise move on and keep quiet. Thanks.

    Plus I think your character says other wise sadly no idea what you are doing here.
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  7. #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    we are not talking about tanking or dps as a dsp.

    If you feel that doing flash and auto attacking is as much as you can go good for you but I will ADVICE you to go and seek some help from other people on how to increase you Emity and increase your dps.
    That's what i advice to "only healing" people, try to play the game how it should be.
    Means using your spells and casting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post

    If you have NOTHING more to contribute in regards this topic it would be wise move on and keep quiet. Thanks.
    Dude you're the one wrong here, you should quit the topic and stop saying promoting lazyness like "dps as a healer is optionnal" which means in reality "im a lazy snowflake carry me the whole duty while im on netflix"
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    Last edited by Watachy; 06-07-2017 at 06:34 PM.

  8. #178
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    I've never met a user with such a huge discrepancy between post content and username.
    Don't think I can esuna THAT burn debuff.
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  9. #179
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasylia View Post
    Healer = Healing and dealing damage when there is nothing to heal
    Tank = Tanking and maintain DPS
    DPS = Dealing Damage and using appropriate utility when the situation calls for it
    I fixed this for you.
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  10. #180
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    Mana Kurogane
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    Gilgamesh
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    Again, I feel like I should repeat my earlier statements of: It may not be mandatory for Healers to DPS but it sure is intended for then to.
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