This is just appalling

[Gumbercules]

on the "wow patches" thing, the issue is no one will ever question WoWs dedication to raiding, they will question their dedication to literally every other aspect of their game. Also having raids with 18 bosses, for the sake of just having alot of loot pinatas is overall as inspired as the rest of their development. (even now with legion) I personally really liked WotLK for example and even during icecrown, many of those bosses were blatant filler. I won't even go over bosses in WoD and emerald nightmare for no other reason that i don't even remember them lol. (only seen videos of NH so guess you can try to convince me that in nighthold they were all memorable and special :P) This is me "giving" the argument the benfit of the doubt too and not counting trials and 24 man bosses into the mix, hell there is a reason why wow tends to go the route of "wings" 4 wings 16 bosses etc etc cuz they then get to shove generic villain A B and C between wing bosses.

[savageink]

loot pinatas

And this is why I refrained from getting into a critique of the content of WoW patches... but "loot pinatas". No kidding.

[Gumbercules]

And this is why I refrained from getting into a critique of the content of WoW patches... but "loot pinatas". No kidding.

my critique comes from a place of love though :P as in I used to love it, then i used to think it was ok...then i thought it was meh, then i was like "wtf is this" to "world of diablocraft huh? w/e sure some ppl will like it im out" :P Still, i get it wow is still very generous to its raiders in the long run (won't go into why i think the world firsts raiders drop like flies now :P ), but "overall" development in a breath of content vs time, wow even to the point I played to in legion, leaves much to be desired. FF14 has delivered things I like, things i dislike, but has always been consistent with giving me something per patch when wow has left me way too often wanting anything outta them.

[MisterLucie]

Also having raids with 18 bosses, for the sake of just having alot of loot pinatas is overall as inspired as the rest of their development. (even now with legion) I personally really liked WotLK for example and even during icecrown, many of those bosses were blatant filler. I won't even go over bosses in WoD and emerald nightmare for no other reason that i don't even remember them lol.

Simply because you clearly chose to do encounters on easy difficulties doesn't mean that they're loot pinatas.

And please, don't even bring that phrase up when we're playing a game where the only difficult content comes in tiers of 4 bosses 3 times an expansion and every other boss is either a complete LFR-style pushover or a new single boss trial that gets killed by a random pug after an hour of trying. Seriously, get real.

[Gumbercules]

Simply because you clearly chose to do encounters on easy difficulties doesn't mean that they're loot pinatas.

And please, don't even bring that phrase up when we're playing a game where the only difficult content comes in tiers of 4 bosses 3 times an expansion and every other boss is either a complete LFR-style pushover or a new single boss trial that gets killed by a random pug after an hour of trying. Seriously, get real.

you are right i didn't do the cutting edge on wow, i also don't do the cutting edge on ff 14 :P Difference is that in ff 14 I continue to have things to do and in wow i just had AP grinds or quit, so i left. This is a recurring fight in the wow community too, where the fanboi defense to this date is "there is alot to do you don't do" vs those that say they do not enjoy what is available. There is a world of difference between breath of content and quantity.

[CyrilLucifer]

Simply because you clearly chose to do encounters on easy difficulties doesn't mean that they're loot pinatas.

And please, don't even bring that phrase up when we're playing a game where the only difficult content comes in tiers of 4 bosses 3 times an expansion and every other boss is either a complete LFR-style pushover or a new single boss trial that gets killed by a random pug after an hour of trying. Seriously, get real.

You forgot fishing.